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NotFishing

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Bluefirecan said :
Amanda and I have tried to politely inform him of the various chores in the apartment that need to be done (AKA, shit like "take out the damn trash once in a while&quot ;) , but he says it's just as much our responsibility.


I think a better response would have been: "I agree, which is why it's your turn to do it now." And if he refuses, turn his own words against him.

Telling him he makes you feel uncomfortable and makes you want to leave is problematic because it could lead to two pathways:
1) He could take it as a personal attack and stop listening.
2) Getting you to leave could be his goal. If neither of you are there but you're both paying rent, he gets the apartment to himself at a third of the cost. You're also not really giving him any incentive to change his ways because you're showing him that eventually there will be a point where the 'nagging' stops (when you quit going to the apartment altogether.) He might not care about living in a pigsty.

Anyways, here's a video you could share with your roommate (even though it may only make everything worse):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z32kVO2rtrk

Bluefirecan said :
is also oblivious to his white male privilege.


None of those qualities you listed are exclusive to white men.

Azi Demonica said :
Sounds like you are dealing with a psychopath


Er... that's a bit of a bold assumption...

Azi Demonica said :
because such a person is also often capable of terrible crime.


Or they're just extremely lazy?

Azi Demonica said :
If you must stay with him, be sure to keep a kitchen knife in your room at all times


Seriously Azi, what the hell? I'm surprised you aren't suggesting she make a pre-emptive strike and take him out first.
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

30-Nov-2017 00:41:12 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2017 01:02:05 by NotFishing

Westenev

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Inferi said :
Westenev said :
I imagine Bridgett will make it to the hanger within the next posting turn.


AND BY THEN IT WILL BE TOO LATE

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For some reason, that laugh reminded me of this:

https://youtu.be/uBzazRsbwb0?t=688




NotFishing said :
Azi Demonica said :
If you must stay with him, be sure to keep a kitchen knife in your room at all times


Seriously Azi, what the hell? I'm surprised you aren't suggesting she make a pre-emptive strike and take him out first.


How did you figure out the next step in the plan?
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30-Nov-2017 00:41:45 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2017 00:42:55 by Westenev

NotFishing

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Okay, here's another idea Maddy:

When you have to assign him a chore, mention that you're going to do another chore as well. ie. "You take out the garbage, I do the dishes, the other roommate vacuums." Insist that you won't do your chore until he does his, and stay true to that promise.

If you present him a massive list he'll likely just get overwhelmed. Try to start by giving him light chores and slowly move up to heavier ones, because he clearly isn't used to doing chores at all.

But if there truly is no solution, then I would like to ask where you found him in the first place. For example, if it was online is there any way you can file a complaint to the website to prevent other people from being stuck with him in the future?
Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

30-Nov-2017 00:53:54 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2017 00:59:58 by NotFishing

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Okay, y'all, this is like a whole big thing now and I don't know where to begin replying. 1) I will not be pre-emptively striking anyone. Or keeping a kitchen knife in my room - the doors lock for a reason.

2)
Westenev said :
TBH, it kind of sounds like he hasn’t had to clean for himself before (or doesn’t understand what a clean environment is, or the import of maintaining one). I’d like to think nobody likes to live like a slob intentionally… and pointing it out kind of just puts him on the defensive.

I think Annie does bring up a good point though; have you tried speaking to the landlord or landlady? It could be possible that they may be in breach of their tenancy.


He claims to be a germaphobe, yet he leaves raw meat on the counter. But he swears he's a germaphobe and hostilely texts the group chat for the apartment when me or Amanda puts dishes on the side of the sink with the garbage disposal because he doesn't want to touch them to move them.

As far as speaking to the leasing office, they said that since it's his separate legal contract, it would have to be his choice to leave the apartment. They can accommodate moving him to a new apartment, but it would have to be him who initiates it.

Fishing:

We've attempted to say that it's his turn, but he never realizes it on his own. Which means Amanda and I walk into the apartment with it smelling like rotting food and with flies everywhere because he stacks the trash so full you have to take stuff out to close the bag. It's not like it isn't obvious that it needs to be taken out, and a good majority of the shit in there is his.

We haven't said we're uncomfortable to him. Just to each other.

No, those qualities are not, only his insistence that he'll be making at least a million within the next few years (he's a sophomore in college right now), and his inability to show me and Amanda respect when we're talking to him. Trust me on this, he tried to mansplain video (cont)
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30-Nov-2017 01:39:31

Bluefirecan
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games to me. It was absurd. And as far as splitting up chores - it's not "chores" that are the problem so much as things that shouldn't need to be addressed. Like, don't leave your trash on the goddamn counter. Oh, when you try to throw it away you need to play Tetris to make it fit? Maybe take the trash out. It's not about "turns". It's about "if it needs to go out, take it. Me and Amanda are busy too, we might not be back for another 7 hours."

Edit: I should mention that he clearly isn't used to having to do chores, but neither me nor Amanda has an obligation to him to remind him to do things. We've mentioned like once each and then once together that we dislike it when he leaves his dirty dishes on the counter for a week or more, but he doesn't wash it. All three of us are college students. Amanda and I have jobs. We have social outings such as club meetings. We don't have time to also be mothers to a legal adult.
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30-Nov-2017 01:41:22 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2017 01:44:03 by Bluefirecan

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