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Me again. Surprise, surprise. Anyways, I noticed that, for the past several chapters, I have not been really doing much, so this time, I’ll criticise at least a little.

Speaking of steel upon sinew, sometimes sinew can actually be stronger than bone, and due to its flexibility, it may be resistant to blades. Just sayin’. Oddly enough, I was listening to Bel*hegor’s Gasmask Terror and that offered a really cool effect reading the slaughter. Septic Flesh make great music for reading fantasy, too.

Well, these godly knights are definitely unlike their European cousins.

Raphael pulls a knights heaume off, and cuts the throat open. Maybe the knight should have considered wearing an aventail or gorget. Fail!

The dark-haired archer gets an arrow in the eye and doesn’t die, yet a helmeted knight would die instantly? Guess it wasn’t a magical arrow*

Hmm, I think the knights would know what to do to kill people; they wouldn’t need orders from their king.

I noticed that swords are the dominant weapon. There tends not to be polearms, axes, maces, warhammers, daggers and such. Shields also don’t really make an appearance. Against armoured foes, it’d be better to use halberds, streithammers, maces, warhammers, mauls, and such heavy weapons, which are cheaply made and suitable for any rebellious force. Perhaps you could consider diversifying the kinds of weapons used for future chapters?

Oh, you then mention the use of kite shields and then a flanged mace. All I had to do was read the next page. Note that plate armour isn’t bulky, it’s light and barely hinders movement. Its only real weakness is offer fast overheating and lack of ventilation.

I will also note you tend to use passive voice a lot, as did Tolkien. Not that it’s a problem, but perhaps I may be helpful in offering a suggestion.

19-Aug-2014 01:53:17 - Last edited on 19-Aug-2014 01:54:42 by Azigarath

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For example,
*Inside his helm, his face was smashed in, his skull was fractured. The Loyal Knight clenched his face, roaring, and within a fleeting moment of consciousness, feeling the intense pain. It was in this moment that the human soldier then made his next attack, bashing his mace at the crown of the knight's head.”

Could be,
“Face smashed in and skull fractured, the inside of the helm was a bloody, pasty mess. The Loyal Knight clenched his face, roaring, and within a fleeting moment of consciousness felt the intense pain. In this moment of suffering, the human soldier then made his next attack, bashing his mace at the crown of the knight's head.”

Diversifying style, even within the same paragraph, often helps to make storytelling and description to feel and sound more effective. Speaking of which, I need to do that myself more often, too.

To be annoying again with my historicity, zweihander is a nineteenth century term; the historic term for a medieval German two-handed sword is bidenhander or schla(c)cht(c)schwert. Irrelevant to a fantastical setting, but I-
*gets buried by tomatoes*

Nevertheless, I like how I complained about a lack of weaponry and then all of a sudden it gets delivered. I thought that was pretty funny. You may wish to consider wrestling, tripping, joint-locks, headbutting (or helm butting, which sounds much more painful), punching, kicking, stomping and pushing in your fight scenes, too. I do wonder how well Greek fire or fire pots would be.

I chuckle along with Drakon.

Hey, did*’t see Soter for a while.

The knights storm the castle.

(continue reading from page 87)

Ok, second sitting...

“his leg like a pipe with a leak.*
Oo, that was a good one.

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“...Soter, his hand upon the blade that entered and exited the knight's body. With a swift boot to the knight's back, Soter tore his blade out.”
Well, that’s some superhuman strength. To be able to put a blade through armour, gambeson, ribcage, diaphragm, heart, and then pull it out in a single pull, well, that takes skill.

Oh, you mention half-swording! Raphael then goes for the exposed underarm, but in unable to pierce the gusset or mail shirt. He should have had an estoc. Speaking of mail, would it also be made of adamas?

Soter loses an arm. Coincidentally, there is an account of a British officer, during a siege in India, scaled a wall and then had his arm loped off with such force that the Indian’s tulwar dug into his ribcage. Nevertheless, the officer, with just one arm, killed five Indians, survived the siege, and returned home in Britain with a pension! Now that’s hard-core.

Darn, I burnt my porridge that I’m cooking... I managed to save it before it really got bad.

A thunderstorm just began where I live, I love reading when I heard heavy rain, thunder and lightning! Too bad thunderstorms are not as strong as they used to be.

Reading on, I can*t help but say, that Beatrice is, like, the worst name ever. :D

“Their blood and entrails covered every inch of the entrance room, one could not go without stepping on something.”
Awesome.


Speaking of taking wine instead of water, Roman legionnaires sometimes had skins of wine which they took into battle.

“"Prison room," she informed him. "it's in the western wing."*
What about the dungeon?

Finished Part 1, onto part2.

Talking about this and that.

Unicorns can talk? Oh, it’s just neighing, but it can be communicated with.

19-Aug-2014 01:54:20

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“the decapitated heads of several laid, their eyes rolled up in the back of their heads with their jaws loose and agape.”
I liked this a lot. Eyes rolling like that is realistic and effective.

Runes are used. Destruction.

Well, that took me like five hours to get through altogether. I liked the descriptions, as usual. I did notice that the knights and soldiers tend to not fight as a group; they don’t exhibit tactics, but rather rush into one-on-ones, so it’d seem. It may be one of two reasons. Either the knights, despite being evil, are honor bound to engage fighting one-on-one, or neither the knights nor rebels have professional training.

Of course, not saying anything’s bad, but I figured I’d offer criticism, as that was something I have not done for you for quite a while. So there we go, hope it helps, until next time.

(Oh, and just in case, on Wattpad, I changed my username from Az*garath to JonathanKonopka, just for future reference in case you ever visit that site.)

19-Aug-2014 01:54:27

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My lack of immediate responding can be summed up in one word: life. I've been aware of it for several days -- in fact just hours after your posting -- but haven't had the ability to reply... Maybe I could've responded earlier, but I think I was just too lazy. xD Anyway...

"Speaking of steel upon sinew, sometimes sinew can actually be stronger than bone, and due to its flexibility, it may be resistant to blades."

I'd try to argue that the strength behind the steel might make up for it, considering it's razor-sharp steel backed up by basically superhumans? If sinew is stronger than bone, then geez... Calcium-deficit?


"Well, these godly knights are definitely unlike their European cousins."

Just because European knights are the source-material, doesn't necessarily mean they have to adopt everything about them? Besides, they're not of this world, (or of Gielinor, which I will remind you that is where the story takes place in) meaning their methods, training, etc. can be entirely different.


"The dark-haired archer gets an arrow in the eye and doesn’t die, yet a helmeted knight would die instantly? Guess it wasn’t a magical arrow"

Since I wrote that bit about the archer, I can remember exactly how I wrote it. So, you assume the knight with the silt throat dies instantly because I said he toppled to the ground, but you don't assume that the archer with an arrow to his eye dies after he falls to the floor? Why? Because he falls and writhes in pain afterwards, then is never mentioned again?

Head injuries don't just 'kill' people instantly, like portrayed in all of media. Quickly perhaps, but not instantly. If I got shot in the eye, considering it's the most sensitive organ, I'd be writhing in pain too. Heck, this one time I got that stuff in a glow stick sprayed in my eye... It didn't feel very good. Just as if I got my throat slashed, I'd probably be done. Don't know how either of these things feel, but like I've said, it certainly can't feel good.
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22-Aug-2014 18:23:16

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Who knows anyway, the anatomy of a Solasúian could differ from a human's, despite their appearances being close to the same. I've yet the appropriate time in the story to explain their differences or even their culture before they arrived to Gielinor. But eventually, I might.


"Hmm, I think the knights would know what to do to kill people; they wouldn’t need orders from their king."

They are called the Loyal Knights of the Royal Family. Again, their methods could be entirely different from the typical European knight. If the people whom they are sworn to protect tell them something, of course they're going to listen. That's their job and something they want to do! Solasúians are extremely loyal and care about their kings and queens, haven't we been through this? If they speak, everyone listens.



Oh, yeah... I've been using different weapons. xD Couple of chapters ago, I mentioned the mace and an axe. Oh, and I think I mentioned a spear! I can't help that I really like swords. :P



"I will also note you tend to use passive voice a lot,"

Hmm, perhaps... As of right now, I'm kinda just experimenting and figuring out things. I think I've found out a bunch of stuff, like the type of style that I like, but I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff. But yeah, I could probably try it out. o:


"You may wish to consider wrestling, tripping, joint-locks, headbutting (or helm butting, which sounds much more painful), punching, kicking, stomping and pushing in your fight scenes, too."

I've certainly thought about it, but if you were a human in an army against people vastly more powerful than you, would you try to wrestle with them? I've added kicking, punching, pushing, I think Lucia has tossed someone over her shoulder before, and Raphael tackled Balor in the last fight scene.

Regardless, Loyal Knights might not respect the idea of resorting to such things. They're probably too arrogant and proud to think-
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22-Aug-2014 18:57:58

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-that they need to do that. Perhaps they think that their skills with a blade is more than sufficient, or maybe they just straight-up don't like the concept.


"Well, that’s some superhuman strength. To be able to put a blade through armour, gambeson, ribcage, diaphragm, heart, and then pull it out in a single pull, well, that takes skill."

This one, I think, bothered me the most. ...Well, hasn't it been mentioned enough that Soter is a Solasúian? That means that he is basically a superhuman, with the strength of a superhuman. Plus, he is a being capable of surviving death essentially, traveling in and out of realms with ease, and can kill groups of his kinsmen without breaking a sweat. The man at one point lost his head and went on fighting! Why bring it up now?


I've mentioned half-swording multiple times. In fact:

"Soter quickly pushed the blade off of his blade and stepped forward. He then smacked the knight in the center of his face with the pommel of his blade as hard as he could."

That was in Chapter 13, which had the first fight scene after you came and suggested the concept. That's technically half-swording, no? Unless you literally mean me saying "half-swording."


"Reading on, I can't help but say, that Beatrice is, like, the worst name ever. :D "

Opinions differ, of course. We can't change them, no matter how much we may disagree with them. Personally, I really like the name.


"Unicorns can talk? Oh, it’s just neighing, but it can be communicated with"

Since RuneScape is FFG's source material, yes they can via the Summoning skill. The Unicorn Stallion is a high leveled familiar with the ability to heal a player. And once a player gets a high enough level in Summoning, they can communicate with their familiars and engage in conversation with it. But if it isn't, you just read it making random noises, and in the stallion's case, it neighs.
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22-Aug-2014 19:29:29

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I did notice that the knights and soldiers tend to not fight as a group; they don’t exhibit tactics, but rather rush into one-on-ones, so it’d seem."

"Either the knights, despite being evil, are honor bound to engage fighting one-on-one, or neither the knights nor rebels have professional training."


Loyal Knights/most Solasúians in general are extremely arrogant, think themselves able enough to charge headstrong into a fight alone, especially if it's a fight with humans. They consider humans low and feeble, they look at them like little maggots. In your mind, do you require assistance in dealing with small, meager insects that you could just easily crush under your heel or easily dispose of?

And in the case of the humans, they probably don't have access to 'professional' training. They get what they can take Besides, I vaguely recall when the Governanti army attacked Falador, there was an instance of soldiers attacking together?


Anyway, I think that wraps it up... thank you so much for your time and for reading. As always, I appreciate it! ^_^

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22-Aug-2014 19:35:45 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2014 20:06:53 by Serene End

Azigarath

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It’s ok, there is no rush. Life likes to rebel.

Whoops, I made a mistake; by sinew, I was thinking of tendons. Just scratch that part. As a correction, tendons can be stronger than bone, especially when flexed. Of course, superhuman strength would go through it anyways, but I think that the godly characters* tendons could absorb a slicing impact.

I understand that the fictional knights do not have to adopt everything from their real-life counterpart. That was mostly just a comment, it wasn’t meant to be much. But, seeing as I raised the issue...
Knighthood and chivalry co-exist. Without chivalry, the term men-at-arms feels more suitable for the knights, but that’s just me.

Presumably, if a character falls over and is never mentioned, yes, I figured he does die. However, as you mention, it doesn’t mean I should assume he dies instantly. But I actually did not presume so, I was really thinking about the trajectory of the arrow and if it was magic-imbued or not. I thought that the arrow went through the eyeball and into the brain, presumably not hitting any bone around the socket. Of course, flinching the head back would deflect some force, too, but there wasn’t enough description to fully express the scene.

Solasúian anatomy could be different, that actually did not cross my mind. Maybe their insides, for example, are as strong as tendons. Well, obviously, if they’re superhuman, they’re going to have by far superior anatomy. Though it would be funny if someone had superhuman strength yet could die as easily as a normal person (I think that’s the wrong idea).

I do recall about Solasúian mentally earlier, kinda, and it is realistic for absolute obedience to be shown amongst knightly soldiery.

But, on Wattpad, I’ve read over thirty stories over the past few months, some up to seventy pages long (roughly the equivalent of 120 RS posts), and offered feedback there, exchanged it, and so my memory isn’t so good over so many settings.

22-Aug-2014 22:50:25

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Back to the point, I just thought that, as they are besieging a place, the knights would already know what to do. But yeah, their priority would be defending their king. Or, maybe you’re foreshadowing a weakness, and that the knights’ reliance on orders may be something that can be exploited.

Regarding hand-to-hand combat, it may seem daunting to have to face someone vastly more powerful than yourself. However, skill, technique and agility very often triumphs over strength. Of course, the foes themselves would also have superior reflexes and efficiency. But a good wrestler, who happens to be thin, can take down a giant if he’s caught off-guard.

Ah, yes, maybe the nobles don’* want to get their hands dirty (so to speak). In Ancient India, there was a caste system, and every time a nobleman, say, was attacked by a thug, he would simply rely on stomping into the legs to break knees, as well as striking the eyes and throat, solely to not even touch the lowly peasant. The culture considered touching lowly people unclean, and so must be avoided at all costs, even in combat.

(Well, if I had to fight superhuman knights, cheap shots like eye gouging, biting the trachea, grabbing, squeezing, twisting and pulling the private parts, or, most historically disgusting, ramming the tip of a weapon into someone’s behind, would be things I’d consider!)

Ah, Soter, and his headless scene. Actually, now that I have a chance, to what extent is this superhuman capability? Superhuman, as in, say, having the strength and agility several times beyond ordinary possibility, or superhuman as in using magic or altering physics at will? Or maybe half and half?

Oh, I did not notice the other instances of half-swording. To show it better, a good idea would be to include something *gripped one hand on the blade” but, well, as a swordsman, I really should have noticed those. *D

My remark about Beatrice was me being silly. And I meant to put D: instead of a smiley. Stupid smiley.

22-Aug-2014 22:50:39

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