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Darlantan

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"I have watched Thlorian extensively... his mastery of shadow is... beyond remarkable. It is great enough that I have been capable of watching him almost as if I were physically present. I have watched him long... and there is a certain inconsistency in his actions. Choices he makes which actually impede Nihil... things he does which he should not do if he is truly a thrall... but whatever it is, it is meticulous enough that nobody could say for certain he acted against Nihil. His soul may have been consumed... but it is not destroyed, for it is the key to his immortality. He can only be reborn after death because his soul resides outside of his body... if it did not exist, he would die with his body. Slaying Nihil would release it... and I expect it would return to him, as his body is its natural vessel. He would no longer be immortal in that event... and as he is not an ancient, he could never wield the full power of an ancient. I cannot say how he will act if his soul is restored... but he would be rather ill equipped to destroy the world. He may be powerful, but he is truly little more than a powerful mortal with skills and talents honed over eons. He could be dangerous, but a new ancient of the Abyss would be far more deadly. Most ancients have children; as I mentioned previously, mine are the dragons of shadow. Before I would have said they were lost when they betrayed me and were corrupted into the Seekers... but time has curbed my bitterness. Most were corrupted, but I know that an entire species does not come to a unanimous decision. I expect some who were opposed to turning against me fled the cities to escape Nihil. Whether or not any of their progeny still survive... that I cannot know."

31-Jul-2014 20:57:12

Darlantan

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"Well, accessing the Temple is easier said than done... It is the third fragment of the world, the small piece called the Darkstar," Umbra said slowly, folding his claws together. "No ancient can step foot upon it... well, except I, perhaps, as my physical form is greatly altered from what it once was... but I do not know how to reach it aside from plunging into the Abyss and hunting for it there, which would be suicide. Vates knows... but I would not seek him out... which is why I would confer with Animus first. Who we could converse with now if he decided to actually leave the mindpaths and show himself."
The ancient chuckled and shook his head, glancing toward Rhen.
"I would not take offense to him hiding within you. Even among ancients he is rather eccentric and enigmatic. Most of us were never sure if he can even see the physical world and can experience only the mental projections of others... In any event, there is no privacy to your minds around him. He can see them perfectly clearly... he is the manifestation of the very ability of anything to have a mind, after all. I am curious what he would see in the one called Frilarn... I haven't an inkling of how it's possible a child of Lux became tainted by the Abyss."

"So long as you do not lose it, my soulstone is rather safe. Nihil designed it to be indestructable... and as far as I can tell, he succeeded."

31-Jul-2014 21:30:47

Basileus257

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"Interesting. Now, please don't take this the wrong way Umbra, but you make your kind sound quite paranoid. Some of them would happily kill a mortal because they know the secret behind their true names despite the fact that it is nearly impossible for us to utilize their names against us. It almost sounds like they are afraid of us. Well, maybe not afraid of us, but wary of our potential power perhaps." Matt said.

"Well, I doubt that would ever happen as he would likely throw the entire Imperial Army against you in the hopes that something would be able to kill you. If the army could not stop you, then I expect he would attempt to defeat using the most powerful weapons in the armory. Now, should you actually manage to force him to sit down and talk to you, I think he would simply call you a liar. The Royal Family tends to be a... paranoid group. After all, they may act like a unified front against the enemy when in public, but the truth is that they are constantly plotting to kill one another to amass wealth and power. The heir to the throne, Princess Elisabetta, is rumoured to have killed three of her siblings because she suspected that they were a threat to her. My point is that they would probably think that you have spies in the Imperial Court to try and cause chaos and disorder." Matt replied

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

01-Aug-2014 01:04:20

Basileus257

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"I can't say that makes me sympathize with them or their motivations." Matt continued. "After all, it is my kind that is destined to die a painful death. Would it not make more sense to try and scare the human leadership into halting their genocide campaign. My people are annialating dragonkind on this world. Some scientists are saying that dragonkind will not survive another century on Neuva. It's wrong, I agree, but damning an entire people because of the actions of their leaders is not right either. It may be foolish to do so, but I would love an oppertunity to tell Ventus or one of those other three Ancients what I think about their actions. Sure they may kill me, but I think it is amusing that they would be so offended by a mere mortal like myself. Well... i'm glad that there are more sensible ancients like you that realize genocide of an entire species is not the only way to prevent wars."

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

01-Aug-2014 01:38:58

Basileus257

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"You raise a good point about Thlorian. If we could ensure that his soul was returned to him, then he could be a poweful ally. Being partially mortal may give him a unique outlook that other ancients lack. I hope that his mortal side allow him to see things differently from *ril*roth. After all, I expect that he will still be quite powerful even if he does not wield all of the powers of the abyss. I have just one more question for you about *ril*roth. You say that he will no longer be immortal after he regains his soul. Does that mean that he could die from something like old age or an illness of some sort? If so, granting him control of the abyss will merely delay the threat of another ancient arising from the Abyss right?" Matt asked

"The third fragment of the world. Hmm... so you mean that it is was originally part of the original world before the Rend devided the world into two? Do you know much about this darkstar and what we can expect if we arrive there?" Matt asked. "Specifically, would magic and technology both work in that plane of existance? Also, what can we expect to find there that will help us? No matter what though, I support going there. It sounds like a best choice we have."

Matt then turned to Rhen. "That sounds like a good idea Rhen. The soulstone will be safer with you then it would be with me. I'd advise going back to the city however. It was fine going there before but the news was talking about a rise in tensions between that city and the Imperium. We could return to find the city has become a battleground or even worse. It's not worth the risk." Matt said

((Sorry about the poor post. I wrote this post on about two hours sleep so I am not able to focus on things right now.))

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

01-Aug-2014 02:12:00

NarBloodwolf

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''So it is agreed then. Once we return to our bodies I will take the Soul Stone and store it with my knowledge crystals. And I as well support going to this temple should we be able to reach it. After all we have no further direction to go from here as this is the last place we were directed by the clues we have been following." said Rhen nodding to Matt.

"Even if Thlorian becomes ruler of the Abyss after we defeat Nihil.....wouldn't he be displaced once Nihil reconstituted? Sure it might take centuries before he might reform but there is still a matter of keeping Nihil from regaining his power once defeated uless he miraculously has a change of heart during his disembodiment." Commented Rhen on the topic of Thlorian.

"If we can speak to Animus here.....I know how to get him to speak with us. He said before we left the Soulbound that I only need think his name and he would be there. If we need his help to possibly reach this temple you speak of Umbra then by all means I will try to have him appear." spoke Rhen.

*Animus. The time has come that I need to speak with you. Please come fourth from my mind so that we may speak to you. It is an urgent matter and we need your assistance.~ though Rhen trying to draw out Animus from his mind.

02-Aug-2014 20:07:42

Darlantan

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"The power of an ancient's true name is greater than most mortals can comprehend," Umbra replied. "It is essentially the highest, purest, quientessential form of our being. For one who is not an ancient to invoke the Name of an ancient... It is not only to control us, but to take on our very being against any will we can muster. Imagine your race has a secret; if any other race learns this secret, they could control your every action, raise your hands and tear your own throat out if they wanted. You discover a member of a much weaker race has learned this secret. You don't know much about the race, but you know it has had a history of fearing and hating you for your far superior power; if they gained a potent weapon against you, it is very possible they would use it to destroy or enslave your race. Tell me, if this were true of your race, how unlikely would it be for one of your kind to slay the one who learned your secret with hardly a second thought?"

Umbra began chuckling, rather heartily.
"Hah, politics. As much as your race has changed in physical appearance, you still bear much of your kruxnak ancestors. Your emperor would have to encounter a very passive ancient to have any chance of killing it with anything a mortal can muster, particularly considering only nonmagical means are available to mortals on this half of the world. We are the forces of the world personified; to even wound us is a feat in itself. If I still had my body... I think it'd be devilishly fun to lay down in the middle of his city and do absolutely nothing."

05-Aug-2014 20:30:22

Darlantan

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"Truth be told, most of us care little for mortals and are content to leave them be if they leave us be," Umbra stated, tilting his head slightly. "There are some who enjoy mortals... such as Anima and Animus, but that is part of their very nature. I have heard tales of Lux and Tenebra assuming mortal forms and lingering with mortals... and Nihil quite loves mortals, though that is merely because they are easy tools for him to manipulate. Then there are those who despise mortals, viewing them as impure abominations spawned from fragments of destroyed ancients rather than creatures born of our essences. The four... they fall into that category. Although some of us would oppose them... well, the four are some of the most powerful of our kind; the opposition simply could not stand in their way. Of course, they could if more ancients opposed them... but most simply do not care enough about mortals to decide to do so. Even if they did... well, on the scale we percieve time, the races the four bring near extinction seem to be thriving again in several blinks of the eye. Your kind is simply too short-lived and too quick to reproduce for most ancients to even realize you almost ceased existing for a time."

"Theoretically he could die of age or disease, but the very nature of the Abyss is to be what the world is not. Most likely, only an attempt to slay him could actually end his life. And I do not believe another ancient would arise while he lived. Although creating children from our essences prevents our forces from unraveling if we perish so long as at least one child lives... it will not necessarily prevent another ancient from arising. Thlorian, however... due to the nature of his creation, his Abyssal half is extremely pure; it would not be entirely inaccurate to say he is half mortal and half ancient. I believe his essence is enough to prevent another Abyssal ancient from arising... but I do not know for certain. If I am wrong... well, you won't live to find out."

05-Aug-2014 20:54:32

Darlantan

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"The Darkstar was once the core of the world, cast far into the Abyss from the violence which tore the world in two. I know little of it, for no ancient could ever enter... but it is sometimes said it is like an ancient in itself. An ancient whose domain is the ancients... except it is most definitely a structure, not a being. Although it may possess some degree of sentience... I would not disregard that possibility. I do believe magic and technology would work in harmony within it, for it was not torn in two like the rest of the world. But what it truly contains... I do not know. I only know that it was once the nexus of the world, that which most strongly bound the world together."

"No limit on time, but rather impatient it would seem," a neutral voice spoke, a short distance away from the group. A familiar, ethereal red dragon had appeared, no larger than a wolf. "Unusual. I would expect mortals to take advantage of limitless time when possible."
"Bah, you haven't changed a bit," Umbra snorted, eying the newcomer now. "As if you could truly be surprised by a mortal mind."

05-Aug-2014 21:09:10

Basileus257

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"You raise a good point. If some sort of power or weapon was found that could enslave humanity with a single stroke, I imagine that not only would the person who discovered the secret be killed but also anyone that person could have mentioned the secret to. After all, having an entire race bow down before you is a power that no mortal possesses. I'd imagine that such power would be second only to controlling an ancient. I know that I do not want to be a slave, nor do most members of my kind. Though that does raise a question. Why are you telling us this? Isn't it possible that one of us may seek out this power or may tell someone who would seek such power for themselves? It is possible, like you said." Matt replied.

"I have to admit that I didn't expect you to have much of a sense of humour." Matt admitted. "Especially considering that you were not exactly happy to see us when we first met. That doesn't mean that I do not appreaciate it, only that it surprises me. But I digress. In all truth, I believe the Emperor would sooner watch his capital and all the treasures within burn then see you enter it. It wouldn't be the first time a city has been put to the torch and it's population killed rather then watch it fall into the hands of an enemy. No offense intended of course, but that is how you will be viewed if you show yourself in human lands. To be fair, how would you feel if a giant, godlike dragon suddenly appeared over your city? Especially when you consider dragonkind and humankind are at war on Neuva."

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

06-Aug-2014 02:42:41

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