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Darlantan

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<We certainly have a feeling of what family is, though it's different than what humans seem to view it as. We just remove the complications of bloodlines because it interferes with the clan as a whole. Otherwise we might be fragmented nations of Tempest families rather than the Tempest empire. And I'm not surprised. Ventrus' family were apparently the only that would even talk to him... and he quite clearly cared deeply for them...>
<You've sort of got it, though not completely. But yes, magic usually gives off a magical aura, which the size of the aura depending on the amount of magic involved. Forlirn could probably tell you more, but if what I said goes over your head then he will probably sound like he's speaking a different language. As for learning magic, I'd go with either Forlirn or Rhen. I might know magic, but it's as intuitive to me as is breathing. I don't think you could explain to somebody who doesn't know how to breathe how they can breathe, so I doubt I could teach you my magic.>
Frilarth flew to Forlirn's side, seeming to whisper into Forlirn's ear. They exchanged glances for a few moments before Frilarth returned to his previous position in the group. Eventually, Forlirn spoke.
"We'll find shelter until the storm end," Forlirn said, seeming somewhat hesitant. "I know of one not very far from here... And it's one of the best shelters that exist in this land."

26-Jan-2012 08:24:55

Basileus257

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<I think we both have the same general idea about what family means. We just happen to view different people as being family. It's not actually all that different when you think about it as we both seem to place equal value on those we deem to be family. And Ventrus just breaks my heart as now he literally cannot talk to anyone. I can't comprehend how such a nice dragon could be ignored by the rest of society like that. He is the last person that deserves such treatment.>
<Heh, honestly, you might as well try to explain colours to a blind person. No matter how hard you try to explain this to me, I just won't get it unless I have the chance to see it for myself. Perhaps I will get someone to teach me the bare basics in magic at some point in the future. It is possible that I will simply never understand magic, but I do intend to try and learn it at some point.>
"That sounds like a plan to me. We can't stay in this storm much longer or you will quickly discover that this group has been reduced to three members. How long do you think it will be until we reach the shelter?" Matt asked.

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

26-Jan-2012 15:58:32

Darlantan

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<Perhaps... but family is not a word that the Tempest often use. While the clan is what we have as a family, the clan is not family; the clan is the clan. And I can say little about what has happened to Ventrus. It is terrible what has happened, but I know not enough about Neuvian society to propose a reason as to why he seems to be hated.>
<Well, I suppose we'll have to wait until then to try and give you a grasp of what magic is. It truly does make much more sense if you practice rather than just listen, though figuring out what to do can be difficult if it doesn't come naturally.>
"Short enough for you to not freeze to death," Forlirn replied, eying the frozen wasteland below. "But you might get a a bit colder than you'd prefer before we make it."

28-Jan-2012 06:22:48

Basileus257

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<Well you don't need to use the word family. The word clan describes both your nation and your family. The only reason we probably use the word is because there is no other word to describe a small group of related people. And I have lived in Neuva all my life and I cannot understand why anyone would treat Ventrus like that. Considering dragons are accepted in that city, you would think people would enjoy having someone like him around. No, if you ask me, there is something very parculiar about his treatment. I can't tell you what that would be, but I think there is more to this then meets the eye.>
<Well considering that i've been in Neuva most of my life and was in fact raised to believe that magic and magic users were evil by nature, I think I will have a hard time learning to use magic. I doubt I will ever become anything more then a novice in magic, but I hope to at least get the basics at some point.>
"I'm already a bit colder then i'd like to be Forlirn. It may be a little ways away, but at least no one will freeze to death. What is this shelter anyway Forlirn?" Matt asked.

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

28-Jan-2012 17:32:02

NarBloodwolf

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"I don't care what the shelter is as long as we make it soon. I think even my clothing is starting to freeze to Forlirn's scales. And my face ins't exactly as warm as I would like it right now. As long as we can make shelter soon and find a way to warm ourselves I will be fine." said Rhen as he pulled in tighter to try and keep his body heat in.

29-Jan-2012 23:45:13

Darlantan

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<I suppose that would make sense... although we make a distinction between the words 'clan' and 'family'. Perhaps it's the feeling associated with each where we differ... As for Ventrus... well, I'd say it's Seeker involvement, but I'm not quite sure. The treatment of a single dragon as Ventrus has been treated seems a bit... below what they would normally do. They seem to prefer grander plans that can further there power or those that would prevent a loss of power... Ventrus... well, I just can't see what they'd get out of this.>
<That might not be the best way to base your expected ability on, as... well, I've occasionally heard that Neuvians have some odd belief that magical ability is based on believing in oneself or some nonsense like that. I'm not sure if that's the kind of belief you're operating on, but such a belief can only affect your willingness to learn magic, not your actual ability to use it. Being raised on Neuva shouldn't have a major effect on your magical ability... After all, Forlirn is living proof of that. Which makes me wonder if maybe he knows what's up here on Elune...>
"It's kinda like a cave," Frilarth answered before Forlirn could say anything. "But kinda not like a cave. It's not warm, but it's not cold either, so a human would be fine in it."
"We'll be there soon enough," Forlirn murmured to Rhen. "But if you truly are frozen to me you might be stuck for awhile after we get there. It's warm enough for humans to survive comfortably with blankets and the like, but it was designed for ice dragons."

01-Feb-2012 01:04:18

Basileus257

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<I agree, I think the amount of feeling that we place in each word is the place where our opinions differ. Other then that I think they are actually quite similar. As for Ventrus, I would agree but I just can't see the seekers wasting resources on one person. If Ventrus was the leader of a country or a clan then perhaps I could understand their actions. As far as I can tell, he is just an average person with no real power. It seems like such a waste of resources.>
<Heh, actually there are countless theories in Neuva about how magic works. Some of them are actually quite funny. When I was a child, my parents raised me to believe that only evil people knew how to use magic. Magic was supposed to be the representation of how evil an individual was. I stopped believing that a long time ago and I don't think many people buy into that theory. I suppose my belief was that you had to have strong willpower to learn magic but it sounds like I would be wrong in saying that. If Forlirn can learn magic then so can I. And I would not be surprised if he knew what is up here. Forlirn seems like the type that would know something like that.>
"Thanks Frilarth. What do you mean by it kind of being like a cave though? Do you mean that it's not a natural cave?" Matt asked.

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

01-Feb-2012 19:55:12

Darlantan

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<Hmm... Logically, it wouldn't make sense for it to be the Seekers, as there is no reason for them to do such a thing. That means it would have to be something else... What else could there be? Could there be some sort of organization other than the Seekers? Or perhaps somebody with a grudge against Ventrus...>
<Quite silly to make theories based on something you don't have any substantial knowledge about... though I'll bet many Elunians do the same thing about the devices of Neuva. Willpower is involved in magic, but its more for the sort that affects the minds of others or if you're in some sort of mental battle. Otherwise... well, it's similar to willpower, but not quite identical. Perhaps we ought to ask him what might be here on Elune in the case we need to make the shift...>
"Oh, well, I don't think it's natural," Frilarth replied, his head tilted to the side. "I mean, maybe it could be, since I don't know if the mountains wanted to make a cave that didn't look natural so everybody would think it wasn't natural when it really was, which really would be quite confusing since everybody would think it was built when it was really a normal cave all along. I'll bet the mountains really think its funny if that's the case, cause everybody would have been falling for it all along instead of realizing it's actually just a normal cave. But we always thought it had been made by Glacignes, cause we didn't really know how it had been made and it's definitely very old. At least, I think it's very old. It could actually be very new but have been made in a way to make it very old and all along everybody except me knew it was new and just tried to make me think it was old. That'd be kinda funny, though maybe not so funny for me, since I'm the one who doesn't know, but it'd be funny for them, but only if Forlirn was in on it, since the rest of them are all dead, so just funny for him, I guess, unless he doesn't think it's funny anymore. Then I guess it wouldn't be funny."

02-Feb-2012 06:09:03

NarBloodwolf

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"I was using it as an expression Forlirn. I am not really frozen to your scales....I was merly using it as an expression to tell how cold I am getting. But as long as we make it to that cave of yours I will be fine. An perhaps I just need a bit of food. I think this cold has sapped a good portion of my energy. That and it may well be a side effect of my void taint. I do not know. But I do know that I will be fine once we are out of this weather." murmered Rhen as he lay his head against Forlirn's back and holding his tainted arm up to where he could see it.
~Why did I have to be so foolish as to study the void and devle into its workings? It has already cost me more than I would like. How much more will it take?~ thought Rhen to himself as he lay on Forlirn's back waiting for them to arrive at the cave.

02-Feb-2012 06:22:38

Basileus257

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<Any of those options are just as bad as it being the seekers. The thought of there being another secret organization as powerful as the seekers is a nightmare and I wouldn't want to run into the person who carries such a powerful grudge. Have you ever held such a strong grudge that you were willing to murder two innocent people in order to make their life a living hell? That's one deluded person...>
<So willpower is just one aspect of using magic then right? Well what other aspects are involved in using magic? It may be useful for when I try to learn magic. And I think I will ask him about Elune's version of this place. If Forlirn knows something then it may be important for us to hear it as well.>
"Say Forlirn. Caelidorus and I were talking and he mentioned that there are stories of something strange up here in Elune. There are supposed to be pockets of magic up here or something like that. Anyway, I was wondering if you had heard anything about that. If you know anything then it may be useful in case we are forced to switch worlds while up here." Matt said.
Matt took a minute before responding, trying to understand what Frilarth had said. "I wouldn't be surprised if Glacignis did make it. Maybe he used it as a shelter before creating your clan. Perhaps he even intended for that to be the place where your clan lived but something went wrong so he had to move. Either way, i'm interested in seeing what it is like now." Matt said.

“He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.”

¯ Aristotle

“Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.”

Marthe Troly-Curtin

02-Feb-2012 17:02:00

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