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Elitemage14

Elitemage14

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Reading through Areno's criticism I didn't think it was particularly harsh at all.

The thing is, unless you've taken some sort of creative writing class, which I don't think most schools offer, most people here were never really taught properly how to write. I know I wasn't. I think reading books are really the only way any of us are 'taught' how to write creative stories. I just came here pretty much a blank slate and through reading books and through others' criticisms I was able to grow.

The fact that Areno is the first person to correct you on things like using a comma after dialogue after 8 months and over 1000 posts is very sad, and I would like to apologize on behalf of the story forum for failing you in that regard.


You really should be thanking Areno. He may not be boosting your self-esteem with blind praise, but through his criticism you have the opportunity to better yourself as an author and your writing skills.

24-Mar-2010 00:02:57

Elitemage14

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Fake Karma, Areno is actually correct. There are times where you wouldn't use a comma and would instead use a period, question, or exclamation mark, but his example was not one of them. (Besides, he said usually, not always)

In dialogue you use a comma after a tag line, like 'he said' or 'she said'.

I'll use these little quotes from my Stephen King book as an example.


"Well," Ralph said, "I suppose I better--"

The above is an example of a line of dialogue that has a tag line, in this case 'Ralph said', and needs a comma.

"You betcha." He took his handkerchief from his back pocket, checked to make sure it was clean, and then wiped his brow with it.

The above is an example of a line of dialogue that doesn't have a tag line and therefore uses a period.

24-Mar-2010 00:11:18 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2010 00:13:08 by Elitemage14

Random Kate
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Random Kate

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@Elitemage

Dude, it's her thing. I've tried to help, but she wanted to do this herself. People have there problems on such things. Some also get help from classes like Language Arts, where writing is also used. She didn't have that as much as the next person due to incidents in life. Plus, we HAVE corrected her in some of these, which have been repeated. You just didn't browse through them.

@Fake Karma

I've already showed you. He didn't mean EVERY SENTENCE. Only things like this:

"Where are you going?"

"To the store," she replied.

That's what he meant.


Anyway, it was criticism. Every writer should just take it in and not be ashamed of it. Everyone isn't perfect. When you think about it, there's mistakes in every work. Okay, just move on. You got supporters and non peoples. You just learn from these mistakes and keep moving forward. Simple, easy and done.

Now, let's calm the atmosphere in here. We don't want fighting going on.

24-Mar-2010 00:27:23

Serene End
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Serene End

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@Elitemage

'Failing me'? What exactly is that suppose to mean?

I do welcome criticism, yes, as my sister has said - LA does help you in writing of sorts and I never really got that opportunity. I'm JUST starting back school, but even now my personal problems has resulted in me only getting taught through homeschooling.

Whatever, I don't really care anymore to be honest. You're helping me, yes, and I appreciate it. However, blind pride isn't what I'm looking for. At least saying ONE small thing of positive feedback would make me lower my defenses. Just to get the first punch of criticism just made me bring my defense up. So, forgive me if I seem too unappreciative.

I look up to a lot of people on this forum with the greatest of my respect, and Elitemage you're one of them. I respect you as a person and as a writer and I appreciate your opinion in the manner.

I will improve when I can, and when I decide to. However, what's done is done - and I will say no more upon the subject.

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24-Mar-2010 01:32:50

Elitemage14

Elitemage14

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I wasn't aware of that, and I'm sorry if I, or anyone else here, offended you or hurt your feelings.

By fail you I guess what I mean is this: I've always seen the story forum as sort of a resource for your writing, and it sounded like no one here really had attempted to help you or teach you things like proper punctuation in dialogue. (That's what it sounded like from your post. I haven't read all 109 pages so I really don't know for certain.)

Anyway, if you have any questions or would like any help on anything, then I would be happy to help you.

24-Mar-2010 02:21:23

Areno3

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Wander, my thoughts were the same as Elite's on how no one had corrected those mistakes before. It was not to be cruel, but I have been writing since first grade so I hate to see this going on. I am new to this forum, yes, but it doesn't mean I'm horrible at writing. I'm quite good actually, in my opinion, and many, many others have told me the same.

I do apologize for my slight harshness at crossing the border of what is criticism and what is negative comments. I would tell you something positive, but the first and second posts have not really peaked my interest as of yet.

To end this up, I WILL be reading your story, and if you think I'm lying (or exaggerating) about my writings skills, you can just check out one of my stories called The Defied Truth.

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I do not care if you read it or not, but it is only to prove my worth. If you already believe me, no need to read it.

24-Mar-2010 12:01:05 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2010 12:06:38 by Areno3

Smallay

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sup critisising dudes.....
waiittt a minuite!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh critisising people!
*blows up*
waittttt i cant blow up its just not the right thing to do
leave teh thread allooneee perfectly entertaining story
else ill get my elite smiley serjeant on ya :@
now leave teh thread alooooooone

alone
alllllllllloooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeee
ALONE!
*alone*

~insane guys~
~co leader of the final judgement~

24-Mar-2010 16:12:27

Seph
Jun Member 2008

Seph

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Here is an idea - how about both of you just take your judgmental heads and ram them into your computer monitors?



In other words-


Firstly, yes, there will always be spelling errors, in anything you read. If you like to think otherwise, get over it, it's a dream.


Secondly, "It didn't seem to grab your attention"? That doesn't mean it didn't grab someone else's. How about being a little more open-minded. Or is it too hard for you?


Thirdly and lastly, why are you people even being so judgmental? Do you hold some type of perfect shimmering image of this forum? Do you think everyone will be an amazing writer, with eye-popping intros and perfect spelling all the way through? If so, you better re-evaluate your logic. So Wander isn't the best at checking for grammar errors, is it such a big deal? She does a pretty good job to me. And your ideas of boring story? Your opinion.



All in all, just get over yourselves, and your petty ideas of the perfect story.




~Seph "How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?" -Jaden Smith

24-Mar-2010 16:23:21

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