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CaptChekaka

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Yrolg:
Thanks for pointing out the typo. I'll edit it now. Also, as for articles and such, I don't believe we have anything that immeiately needs to be done, but this thing needs it's monthly checkup soon and I think it may be next weekend. You should check back then and I'll present anything that needs updating. ^_^
Doom:
That is exclusive to Poller an myself! :P
Light:
Pretty much what Pork said. You just need to find your writing niche. Start out with something small, easy, and enjoyable that will make you have fun while writing. After all, isn't that what it's all about? Enjoy yourself, and don't make it a job.
Padaun:
I've been fairly inactive and haven't read anything lately. Sorry, I'll try to get on it soon, though.
-- Chek

01-Feb-2009 06:08:25

Englishkid62

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Hello, Capt. I re-read the section ‘Grammar’, and I don’t find it as helpful as it should be. Please consider this contribution.
Grammatical rules:
(There are more, feel free to add if you know one ^_^ )
1) It is despicable to boldly split an infinitive.
2) Never use a big word when a diminutive one would suffice.
3) Put the apostrophe in it’s proper place!
4) Verbs is to agree with their subjects.
**es*ion: Is a preposition really bad to end a sentence with?
Answer: Well, in Latin, it is impossible to end a sentence with a preposition. But in English, particularly in speech, it often sounded more natural:
“What the hell are you on about?”
Compared to:
“About what the hell are you on?”
It is okay to end a sentence with a preposition, and perhaps, this is the only reason not to:
…Suffering from impotence, Sir Amik visited many doctors asking for help, but there was no medicine in which could cure his disability in the realm of RuneScape. Out of desperation, he visited Aggie the witch. She gave him a potion that could only be used once every ten years and told him to drink it before he was ready to do the ‘naughty deed’. And, when the time was right, he should say ‘one, two, three!’ and his impotence will be cured.
The man asked: ‘How do I make the potion stop working?’
‘Oh, that’s easy.’ Aggie replied, ‘You’ll have to say: “one, two, three, four.”’
On that dreadful evening before he entered his house, Sir Amik drank the potion. He surprised his wife by taking her hand and led her into the bedroom. All was going well and he whispered: ‘one, two, three!’ His wife was puzzled and gave him an odd look. She asked, ‘What’d you say “one, two, three!” for?’ …
Now now, THAT is why you must never EVER end a sentence with a preposition!
Attributed to Winston Churchill: ‘This is the sort of English up with which I will not put.”

10-Feb-2009 14:44:32 - Last edited on 18-Apr-2009 19:58:31 by Englishkid62

Englishkid62

Englishkid62

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Common grammatical errors:
1) Prolixity
This is when one uses more words than is necessary.
E.g. “Put that BACK DOWN on the table” Is wrong. You do not need two prepositions in this sentence.
E.g. “I took a day OFF FROM school” Is also wrong. Same reason.
E.g. “I’m going DOWN south to Lumbridge” Even one preposition is too many here.
E.g. “Where did Postie Pete go to?” Same reason.

2) Strange use or preposition.
-Absorbed in/by
“I was absorbed in my writing.”
“All of a sudden I was absorbed by a giant vacc(c)um cleaner!”
-Bored of
This is wrong. It should be bored with or bored by something.
-Centre on/around
It is rather confusing, to have a centre around another centre. You could perhaps say it is ‘based’ on something instead.

3) Missed words
E.g. “You BETTER do what I say!”
-Although the pronunciation in real life is often similar, but when written out, this should be ‘You’d better do what I say!
E.g. “I should OF known.”
-Although the pronunciation in real life is often similar, but the written out version of this should be ‘I should’ve known.* Derived from ‘I should have known.”
4) Verbs and Nouns
Practice = noun
Practise - verb
Advice = noun
Advise = verb

10-Feb-2009 14:45:34 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2009 16:09:57 by Englishkid62

Englishkid62

Englishkid62

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Punctuations:
Colons : a colon informs the reader that what follows sums up or explains what has come before, or to introduce a list of items.
E.g. He was delighted to be accepted by The Incredibly Gifted Authors: it was the tenth time that he had applied.
E.g. There are numerous items I would like to recieve for Christmas: a car, a new laptop, an Mp3 player, a Playstation 3, a wife, five children and a new mansion!
Semicolons ; are becoming less and less popular, comparing to dashes (which I absolutely agree). A semicolon connects two independent clauses and usually replaces ‘and’ or ‘but’. Both sides of the semicolon must be complete sentences, and yet they are closely linked. You do not need a capital letter after a semicolon. Semicolons are also used to separate items in a complicated list (I.e. where each item requires a comma – and if you separate the list using commas, it would seem confusing.)
Dashes – is a line that can be used alone or it can be used in the place of a bracket. It is an aside, an interruption, or an additional piece of information. It could also be used to indicate a sudden change of emotion or thought, or a sentence has been broken off. In the modern days, Dashes are overwhelming our poor old semicolon, and Dashes are now widely accepted in writing.
British Dash: This is – a British Dash, with a space on either side of it.
American Dash: This is—an American Dash, with no spaces.
Interrobang – do not use ?! or !? in formal writing. Also, multiple exclamation marks are visually distracting and can get really annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-Feb-2009 14:46:30 - Last edited on 24-Apr-2009 17:26:16 by Englishkid62

Poller5
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"It is okay to end a sentence with a preposition."
This is entirely incorrect. It is never acceptable to do any such thing.
"Colons : a colon informs the reader that what follows sums up or explains what has come before, or to introduce a list of items."
You´re almost correct. A colon can only be placed in a position where the clause(s) preceding the colon form a complete sentence. Your second example is incorrect.

12-Feb-2009 16:14:04 - Last edited on 12-Feb-2009 16:16:02 by Poller5

Ghastrage718

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Can I please pose a quick question to anyone willing to answer? Is it ever acceptable to use a comma and a conjunction together?
EG: I feel very tired, and I want to go to sleep.
Is *hat correct? Several people have told me that a comma shouldn't be there.

16-Feb-2009 23:47:44

[#YSMGWGAI3]

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James,
In general, you should place a comma before a conjunction introducing an independent clause. The only time that you should omit the comma is when you are conjoining two independent clauses that have the same subject via "and," and the relation between the two clauses is immediate.
In your example, you should probably leave out even the second 'I': "I am tired and want to sleep."
(Editing for clarity)
The two clauses here are:
I am tired
and
I want to sleep.
The subject is the same ("I&quot ;) and the relation is immediate, so the comma should be omitted.
Here are a few examples of sentences in which commas are needed:
I am tired, and John wants me to go to the bar. (Different subjects)
I am tired, and I had spinach with supper. (Non-immediate relation).
Those are off the top of my head, and they aren't the best examples, but hopefully they are illustrative.

~Letch

17-Feb-2009 00:41:51 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2009 00:58:41 by [#YSMGWGAI3]

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