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A Hebrew

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Unless I get a set-in-stone confirmation that iron man will NOT feature any already-created account I will be voting no. Sure, it would suck for people who already worked hard on it but there is no possible way you could know if the account followed every rule perfectly, I would rather see a competitive atmosphere than a game of catch-up-with-the-famous person.

13-Sep-2014 04:30:59

27cass

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Formerly Joy said :
I'd like to make a topic for you to reflect your own ideas and opinions on.

Currently, every single main-boss in game can be solo'd. Not only that, but they could be solo'd back to back without banking. A huge portion of this game is inspired from 2007 and backwards. The content wasn't built for "core" gaming. Gaming then and gaming now is different. We want challenge, developed content and end game content keeping us going.

I understand. If we can solo every boss in game...is it RIGHT to bring Divine Spirit Shield in game? Well, think about everything I've been saying. Of course it is. Mod Reach has expressed interest in bringing Elite PvM and Raids. He's expressed interest in advanced combat mechanics. Just think of these examples:

1.) AoE combat and minions. Think of Nex, but even more improved on.
2.) Bosses that can hunt you through their lair! Maybe a dungeon with tons of skill and resource areas where you must be ready to become the hunted.
3.) Buffs and Debuffs! These can be AoE too. Think of an AoE spell that begins draining everyone's defences or poisoning them which only gets deadlier the longer the fight lasts. You're now essentially timed to die or survive!

If you want to "evolve combat", why do you even play osrs? They have a version of Runescape that is constantly being overhauled with the latest and greatest of everything. None of the stuff you suggest is coming to osrs and most people playing osrs like it that way.

13-Sep-2014 04:57:52

27cass

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Formerly Joy said :
27cass,

I cannot follow anymore of your debate without fact or main ideas. As is, I see no combat potential within your accounts status. I do not believe you would know what is best for PvM or much at all about its former drop tables.

One of its Rare's, being the Regen. Bracelet is actually upsetting to the economy. You talk about what could be done "later" when "later is in fact, too late." If you wish to factually dispute this, I will give you a second chance.

The table is set. I have mentioned three times now; Jagex asked for player suggestions and they were not suitable to the Corporeal Beast. These will not be implemented or voted on. That is not to say that a few of the more successful ideas are not subject to another time.

I couldn't care less about spirit shields. I'll probably vote for them, but I do not agree that they are an essential and indivisible part of the corp content. And I'd be perfectly content if 26% of the OSRS community decide that they don't belong.

And the only "facts" in this discussion are the stats on the shields which there's no arguing about that. Are they "OP" or unbalanced? Should they be dropped by corp or should they be in the game? These things are 100% a matter of opinion. You've got yours. I've got mine. And every other voter has theirs. And if 75% want them, then they will be in. If not they won't. I won't be sad either way.

13-Sep-2014 05:09:10

27cass

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BlueRocks69 said :
@ Mod Mat K -

I have a few issues with how you presented the ironman mode.

1) You said if you can make an item/collect it, you cannot buy it from a store

This rule makes no sense. It sounds a lot more like a hardcore ironman mode rule then regular rule - I can tell you right now EVERY ironman made has broken that rule.

2) You cannot do NMZ

NMZ should definitely be soloable, with the rewards the same. Seriously, without NMZ, you would literally have to mine pure essence for 10 hours/day for FOUR MONTHS to get 99 RC banked.

The basic idea behind an ironman account is no trading . I dont see how these two things effect that. Beyond no trading/picking up other peoples drops I really don't see why it is needed to enforce rules. Beyond that, it should be up to the person who owns the account.

I agree with this. To me the basic Ironman is just playing the game without trading. You can't prevent all help from other players unless you put them on a world with 1 player. Plus if you block NMZ totally, you can't get your gear imbued.

If they want to have a super ironman with tougher rules, thats fine.

13-Sep-2014 05:15:13

Keno

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27cass said :
Formerly Joy said :
I'd like to make a topic for you to reflect your own ideas and opinions on.

Currently, every single main-boss in game can be solo'd. Not only that, but they could be solo'd back to back without banking. A huge portion of this game is inspired from 2007 and backwards. The content wasn't built for "core" gaming. Gaming then and gaming now is different. We want challenge, developed content and end game content keeping us going.

I understand. If we can solo every boss in game...is it RIGHT to bring Divine Spirit Shield in game? Well, think about everything I've been saying. Of course it is. Mod Reach has expressed interest in bringing Elite PvM and Raids. He's expressed interest in advanced combat mechanics. Just think of these examples:

1.) AoE combat and minions. Think of Nex, but even more improved on.
2.) Bosses that can hunt you through their lair! Maybe a dungeon with tons of skill and resource areas where you must be ready to become the hunted.
3.) Buffs and Debuffs! These can be AoE too. Think of an AoE spell that begins draining everyone's defences or poisoning them which only gets deadlier the longer the fight lasts. You're now essentially timed to die or survive!

If you want to "evolve combat", why do you even play osrs? They have a version of Runescape that is constantly being overhauled with the latest and greatest of everything. None of the stuff you suggest is coming to osrs and most people playing osrs like it that way.

+1

Seems to me like you want to play RS3. They have a lot of bosses and stuff like you want.

13-Sep-2014 05:16:35

Slay Casey

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Keno said :
27cass said :
Formerly Joy said :
I'd like to make a topic for you to reflect your own ideas and opinions on.

Currently, every single main-boss in game can be solo'd. Not only that, but they could be solo'd back to back without banking. A huge portion of this game is inspired from 2007 and backwards. The content wasn't built for "core" gaming. Gaming then and gaming now is different. We want challenge, developed content and end game content keeping us going.

I understand. If we can solo every boss in game...is it RIGHT to bring Divine Spirit Shield in game? Well, think about everything I've been saying. Of course it is. Mod Reach has expressed interest in bringing Elite PvM and Raids. He's expressed interest in advanced combat mechanics. Just think of these examples:

1.) AoE combat and minions. Think of Nex, but even more improved on.
2.) Bosses that can hunt you through their lair! Maybe a dungeon with tons of skill and resource areas where you must be ready to become the hunted.
3.) Buffs and Debuffs! These can be AoE too. Think of an AoE spell that begins draining everyone's defences or poisoning them which only gets deadlier the longer the fight lasts. You're now essentially timed to die or survive!

If you want to "evolve combat", why do you even play osrs? They have a version of Runescape that is constantly being overhauled with the latest and greatest of everything. None of the stuff you suggest is coming to osrs and most people playing osrs like it that way.

+1

Seems to me like you want to play RS3. They have a lot of bosses and stuff like you want.

They aren't talking about "evolving combat" they are talking about much harder bosses then what we have currently. I LOVE doing PvM and sorry but bosses all you do is attack and eat get boring after you do them for over a year. Please give use challenging bosses.

13-Sep-2014 05:34:12

Formerly Joy

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Keno, you are largely against Divine and have made it abysmally clear you are closed to all logic on the matter. I have no interest in Runescape 3.

I am not discussing evolving combat. I am discussing the interest in evolving the PvM metagame. Which we currently have next to none. As I said, I can solo every boss back to back, no bank. It is a simple game.

13-Sep-2014 05:38:00

I M Deathles

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Hardcore Iron Man mode can be done with just a few lines of code added to a normal ironman mode account. Just make it so you have 2-3 lives before account reset (you won't have to wait for appeal to be processed if hacked/ddos'd/server and you can continue playing)

Completionists need access to all in-game content. No goal should have the possibility to not be accomplished. I.E. Barbarian Assult, if you are locked in accept aid off, you'd have to scroll to play, that limits good players to attack or collector. I am not defending first slot omg. (nerding aside) Nightmare zone as well, increase the cost or decrease the rewards. Do not remove it entirely. I want access to all pets, max gear which includes slayer helm (i) and berserker ring (i).

Single way trading/item lending. Many ironmen wish to lend items to friends as well as give people teleports if another player needs them. Pretty simple, you can offer away items, but can not receive items in return. as for lending, allow a set period of time before the item is returned directly to your bank. (for anyone saying oh if you get hacked then someone can trade away all your stuff(Since I KNOW someone is going to say that) they can just drop trade all of your stuff as it stands now, so yeah)

To fix GWD/Bosses issue, decrease the drop rate of an item based on the amount of damage done. For example if you (the ironman) does 50% and your two friends to 25% each, double the rarity of that lovely bandos tassets. This allows you to play something that isn't Runescape - Exiled mode.

For Hardcore, make PvP deaths not take a life away. Again it falls under limited the player to the point where achieving everything loses any viable possibility. Nice, going for Chaos Ele pet? Okay hope you can outrun my clan with ice barrage, have fun at tutorial island on your new account.

Ultimate mode = Unstreamable. Little potential to be fun to watch. Hardcore mode = MUST SEE IF THIS GUYS DIES OMG HYPE SO GOOD PLS DIE (outofspace!)

13-Sep-2014 05:48:46

Neuro

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OLDEnglsh800 said :
Please osrs team, fix the poll itself before you poll any new big update. Our new in-game updates are being turned down by the minority of the community. We are in desperate need of updates as you know. Iron Man mode to me is a waste of time, focus on one update at a time before you branch off to another. Nothing is being passed and instead of trying to figure out why, you're moving on without looking back. For BH, focus on tweaks to the rewards or add new rewards altogether. The wilderness has had so much rework done to it and has become almost dead content. A big chunk of the osrs community is under 60 defense and because the update will be not be benefiting them the update is decline. I do not want the developers to waste their time on new content, when we cannot get anything that beneficial to pass today. Please let us make profit from pking once again and bring the community as a whole back into the wild. The 70% of the community is being outweighed by the other 30%. 30% is not the majority, with lowering the poll this game will begin to grow as it did before. Someone please read this to spread feedback, thank you.

Couldn't have said it any better!

13-Sep-2014 05:52:19

Neuro

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justsomewood said :
I'll be voting for Corp, and since you nerds are so against the unchanged divine I'll be voting down your stupid iron man update. I normal don't advocate such ignorance, but since we we haven't been able to pass a big update lately, who cares anymore?

Lmao

13-Sep-2014 05:54:36

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