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Formerly Joy

Formerly Joy

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I do not mind how Dragon Defenders are implemented. I believe they would be a great addition to the game and fill the missing gap in Defenders. I do however feel strongly about the game being impacted by "fear of change." Usually which is by a very small percent on ground breaking updates.

We will never get anywhere if we continue giving "what if's" and excuses. I want to see the poll rate lowered to 70% as discussed in the Q&A's and see more updates that will add challenge and gameplay to the game. Yes, this game does not nearly live up to graphical standards of modern MMO's. However, with proper development the gameplay can live up to modern standards.

If you ask gamers for their "Top 10 Games" you can be sure to see at least one classic and well aged game. Example, Final Fantasy 7 or Legend of Zelda are huge fan favorites. This is because the gameplay is so ground breaking it never leaves us. Why not aim to do the same in Runescape?

Thanks, elect me the new CEO of Jagex and I'll donate 99.9% of my check to the ALS foundation.

05-Sep-2014 23:35:40

Formerly Joy

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Ashes630 said :
Formerly Joy said :
Comedy,

I don't see how this harms the game. I like the idea to give options. This is by all means a private server, dedicated to us, the loyal players of Runescape. Regardless, I do not see how this harms you nor anyone else, unless it was offered in a more harmful manner: I.E: Micro Transactions.
Yeah, at least we can obtain these cosmetics in-game without a credit/debit card.

:) My point exactly. These are completely harmless and should be welcomed. Options are always nice?

05-Sep-2014 23:37:35

Iron Tarheel

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I do agree with you that playing as an Ironman account is my choice, and I also agreed with you on the absurdity of an 'Ironman' playing mode. I will vote no to that if it ever comes up on the polls. However in regards to the implementation of the dragon defender, I feel that requiring someone who doesn't like PvP to obtain a specific item that benefits all players is silly.

Yeah you can trade for the dragon defender, but here's a scenario to think about: What if I was an account that does trade, yet I don't have enough money to buy the said item. Why should I not have an equal chance at obtaining the item myself without having to participate in PvP? Why should PvPers control the market for these new "General Use" items?

It all boils down to the fact that there are better ways to implement such an item. Also, all defenders and dragon items in the game are obtainable without having to participate in PvP...why change that?

05-Sep-2014 23:42:13 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2014 02:13:02 by Iron Tarheel

Formerly Joy

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"I do not mind how Dragon Defenders are implemented."

I've seen a few PvM oriented players express dislike towards how it would be implemented. If the majority agrees that this should be a boss exclusive drop then I would happily support that! However, I do want to point out that items such as Defenders, Fighter Torso, Void Equipments are all PvM rewards. A lot of PK'ers don't like heavily restricted items...But, they deal with it.

That said... If it fails by anything less than 10%, I'd feel no justice. If 35% or more of the community want a boss to drop the Dragon Token / Defender, I'd support :)

05-Sep-2014 23:50:49

Im Nate

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Beatrix said :
Poop said :
Sjoerd said :
Just put in the Dragondefencer @the Warriors guild as a normal drop
This is just so stupid.

You forcing all the players to Go pking in bh. While we dont pk for a reason.

And stop doing such stupid pk/bh updates.
There are not even much pkers/bhers

Are you serious? all these people saying you're forced to PK for D Defender; you CANNOT trade the defender, what you buy is essentially a ticket to have the CHANCE at a defender from the BH store, or straight up from another player; you still get the defender from the Warriors Guild

So in the end you have to PVP or buy from someone who does just for a CHANCE to get a dragon defender? No way in hell.

Just put the cyclops boss in the warriors guild and let us access it by normal means, not this BH crap being shoveled down PvE players' throat. I'm regretting my yes-vote for BH already, that is the last time I vote for content I won't use.

I rather have no dragon defender than have it implemented like this.

That's not a very good argument. I don't like pvm so I think we shouldn't add anymore rewards from pvm. I don't want to pay a pvmer for my godsword or a slayer for my whip, we need a way to get these from pking! They shouldn't get any good drops because I don't like doing those things! My logic is amazing! Maxed Sept 24th, 2015 - 134th to max

06-Sep-2014 00:05:10

Formerly Joy

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I did say this is a discussion for elsewhere; as such, here it comes. The current 75% system is a bias and unjust system in which, we the players, had no say. Because of this, we the players, are the ones now suffering from its consequences. I will list a few of the arguments below.


1.) 74% Upset players outweighs 26% Satisfied / Vengeance hungry voters?
I've concluded from a conversation with Mod Ash that his opinion is as such. "If the majority of the players vote for it, I support it." So is it fair to crush 74% of the players upon a poll? Many of those who vote no often have a bias against the particular content in question; more on this below.

2.) Different Play Styles:
Runescape is comprised of several niches of players. We've got the bank standing / social players, clan communities, marketing and merchanting communities, pure communities, skillers, PvP'ers and PvM'ers; only to name a FEW! With each different style of enjoying the game comes different opinions. A pure obviously wont want the same content as a main. This creates an immediate spiteful bias at each and every poll that does not cater to each and all of the communities.

3.) Jagex's Struggle:
Lately, I have noticed every content piece be overly hyped in an attempt to create a interest among the community. Dev Blogs, Hyped up twitter, Twitch streams and Q&A's, multiple Surveys and Polls! This may be because of how harsh we bash every piece of content. Jagex has to work on each proposal! All of that work gets wasted as does their time! Think of all the work Mod Reach would have wasted if Corporeal Beast just gets destroyed at poll?

4.) Oldschool is OLDSCHOOL
A short, but sure percentage of players with the total level to do so will bring their NO's to the poll. Just because they want no change, ever, period.

5.) Understanding the content:
Simply put, some players just don't understand the content in question. = Dev Blogs.

06-Sep-2014 00:07:56

Formerly Joy

Formerly Joy

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Iron Tarheel said :
I do also agree that the 75% rule needs to change! The fact the game might not develop naturally due to a stubborn minority is becoming ridiculous!

I re-posted a discussion I had to Mod Ash, Dan and Ronan. Both through the in game forums and Twitter. This may or may not have been what fueled them to bring this up in the Q&A's. Me and a large group of friends are absolutely disgusted and sick of the polling system in which we did not choose, yet we suffer from it.

Take a read and see for yourself what is so wrong with it. Also be sure, that these are not all of my arguments. Only what the forums allows me to type.

06-Sep-2014 00:09:31

Ashes630
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Formerly Joy said :
"I do not mind how Dragon Defenders are implemented."

I've seen a few PvM oriented players express dislike towards how it would be implemented. If the majority agrees that this should be a boss exclusive drop then I would happily support that! However, I do want to point out that items such as Defenders, Fighter Torso, Void Equipments are all PvM rewards. A lot of PK'ers don't like heavily restricted items...But, they deal with it.

That said... If it fails by anything less than 10%, I'd feel no justice. If 35% or more of the community want a boss to drop the Dragon Token / Defender, I'd support :)

I will buy this dragon spike if I must, but I would rather it come from the original source of defenders. Former RS3 Completionist, On the road to Max old school

06-Sep-2014 00:11:15

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