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LOL Devaluing a lvl 3's 99 agility. Im sorry but adding 10-20k more xp per hr wont devalue it asmuch as RS3 has devalued ALL 99's. If you think skill updates wont come to 07 that will devalue skills, then you as sadly mistaken. Agility is just the first, so sit back and enjoy the ride :)


actually adding 10k-20k is a massive devalue and it will devalue it just like rs3.. agility is many of the skills that will slightly be devalued no one wants the rest of the skills devalued.. if you think the skills will be devalued your pretty dumb. If there is no players left no one can sit back and enjoy the ride


Plenty of ppl will enjoy the ride. If you think new skill updates wont devalue any skills, then stop playing RS and get some FRESH AIR. ANY new skill update to 07 has a chance to devalue the skills. Live with it and ENJOY THE RIDE!


Hey Jagex, can we kick all gang up and banish some undesirables out of the community? :|


Ye lets get rid of some of these agility bots!

04-Dec-2013 13:26:28

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I was the first to all 99s in 07.


No wonder you r crying like a girl. This update may devalue ur agility achievement a lil but Jagex can't cater to a few lvl 3's that want this content locked to them. Jagex has to do what they think will help the game. A few restrictions r good, high enuf restrictions to make every lvl 3 envious of the lvl 3's with 99 agil! Nuff said. :)

04-Dec-2013 13:32:36

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I was the first to all 99s in 07.


No wonder you r crying like a girl. This update may devalue ur agility achievement a lil but Jagex can't cater to a few lvl 3's that want this content locked to them. Jagex has to do what they think will help the game. A few restrictions r good, high enuf restrictions to make every lvl 3 envious of the lvl 3's with 99 agil! Nuff said. :)



I know of an excellent restriction! It's called having agility lvl 95! ;D

04-Dec-2013 13:40:45

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The first, and so far only, level 3 skiller to get 200m Agility Xp was disappointed that he had to do it all at the Advanced Barbarian course where the achievement of being the first level 3 skiller to 200m Agility had no extra value over any other 200m Agility done.


Think how Phoenix Odin felt about going for 200m Rc xp and then Runespan came out. We can use examples of how Rs3 has devalued skills till the cows come home but to no avail. You dont want lvl 3's at new coarses and we don't want bots on hiscores. All we can do is cry and then continue playing the game we all love!

04-Dec-2013 13:42:48

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Mod Mat K has confirmed on 2007Scape Reddit that it will be released December 5.

The Countdown begins!


Still counting down!


So close now!


1 more day!!

04-Dec-2013 13:44:29

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Hey guys.. i made a thread based on the grace armour results.. i and others are not keen on the design / colouring of this and prefer atleast a choice of colours/design for this... please seek my thread made for more info upon this matter thank you .


Hardly anyone has really voiced distaste towards the design of the graceful outfit and its way to late to change it.


Its never to late.

04-Dec-2013 16:47:42

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Don't make agility easier! Dorgesh kahn should remain the fastest. Zaros is evil: "Zaros plainly requested the use of twelve legions of demons. (..) Zaros offered the secrets of travel between the worlds, to allow the Chthonians to devour whole new races rather than be reduced to preying on each other." From Sliske's Memory

04-Dec-2013 17:11:31

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I was the first to all 99s in 07.


No wonder you r crying like a girl. This update may devalue ur agility achievement a lil but Jagex can't cater to a few lvl 3's that want this content locked to them. Jagex has to do what they think will help the game . A few restrictions r good, high enuf restrictions to make every lvl 3 envious of the lvl 3's with 99 agil! Nuff said. :)


Jagex has limited say in what they think will help the game, they are leaving it up to us. It also would not be a good enough reason to restrict people because a few level 3's don't want other level 3's to access the course. However, it's not just a few level 3's making that case.

As you know, I made a suggestion that would still provide an incentive to complete quest. That suggestion did not fix one of the underlying concerns that I have and that probably a few others may share. Currently, agility is not really a skill that can be botted efficiently unless you complete quest. It certainly restricts people from botting efficiently and getting high levels quickly. That all changes with this update, now people will be able to go from roof to roof without any requirements outside of agility.

04-Dec-2013 18:57:41

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If you think a few K more xp is going to bankrupt OSRS then jeez...
Look at all the BS we have had to put up with from RS3.
Nothing but a bunch of whimsical Mods over there that say one think one year then another the next. And yet people still pay them.

At least here in OS we have Mods that listen to us and put nearly everything to a vote.

Now back to the Agility update...
I'm not the exception. Just because I'm one of 3 lvl 3s I've seen on this post doesn't mean I don't count.
Like I said before.. those lvl 3s have already gotten 99. I can understand how they might feel if now suddenly all lvl 3s have access to more xp/hr.

To those crying that it would devalue the skill if lvl 3s were allowed access.. How might I ask does keeping away skillers devalue the skill when in-fact the xp rates are higher regardless?

The only people against lvl 3s having access are those that for some reason despise skillers OR fellow lvl 3s that have worked hard to get to 99 and now don't want to feel that THEIR hard work was meaningless.

To me this sounds like all cruel intentions and should not be allowed to even be considered.

Oh, and btw, I've ONLY ever been a skiller. All 8 years of my RuneScape life have been as lvl 3.


It's also about future possibilities of level 3 skiller achievements still being uniquely more valuable than non-level 3 skiller achievements. An achievement is more valuable by default if it's harder. People have 99 Agility already because they care about achievements in the first place.

Tell me, do you want access to the Ape Atoll and Dorgesh-Kaan courses?

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The reason skillers (any cb) switched from RS3 to 07 was to get away from EasyScape and fast Xp rates.


LOL Thats what you think? Ppl r playing Eoc becuz it has a NEW HiScore and to escape the Eoc combat style.


I specifically said skillers.

04-Dec-2013 19:25:52

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Jagex has to do what they think will help the game.


You do realize that this alone completely defeats your arguments? This is about the good of the game, not about you being greedy in getting 99s easier because you don't feel up to the task of actually putting in work to get it as it is now.

I care deeply about skilling in this game and do not want it to get destroyed as it was in RS3. The 3 JMods working on OSRS seem to understand the desire we have for actually achieving things and not wanting overpowered pieces of content. This gives me hope that we can continue having a successful game that can go down the path RS should've kept going down years ago prior to ivy, brawlers, effigies, bonus xp weekends, refer-a-friend, squeal of fortune, runespan, and bonds. All of those updates majorly damaged the achievement skilling culture that exists in RuneScape. There's a lot more wrong with RS3 than just EoC.

These JMods in OSRS have repeatedly stated that they understand that the community in general does not want free Xp being handed out or large increases in Xp rates. We won't have to sit by and watch the game get destroyed. We just have to point out instances where they unintentionally have made things too overpowered. This current case of having the highest level courses in cities not already limited by quest requirements is an example of that.

Normal players are seeing only a moderate Xp rate increase of only about roughly 7k or so Xp/hr. Level 3 skillers would be getting about a 22k Xp/hr increase. In terms of percentages over current rates, it's a 11% increase for general players compared to a 47% increase for level 3 skillers. This is a MASSIVE Xp rate increase for level 3 skillers. These rates are assuming 47k Xp/hr at Wilderness Course (with banking for energies being rather slow there), 62k Xp/hr for Dorgesh-Kaan Course, and 69k Xp/hr for Ardougne Course. A nearly 50% increase is way too much.

04-Dec-2013 19:52:33

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