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I think the ardougne xp rate needs to be reduced, 62k/h is the same as dorgesh-kaan at high level.

Make it 60k/h so it's still better to do the dorgesh-kaan course.

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Nah mate, slightly better is fine.

@Celtic, all we're talking about is not changing the status quo. Currently level 3 skillers can do Wilderness course and get roughly in the high 40k's with energies. Most other players can do Dorgesh-Kaan and get in the low 60k's. By just adding new high level courses without quest requirements would boost the Xp rate that level 3 skillers get significantly. To keep it so both types of players only get a small increase in Xp rate, you add quest requirements to the level 80 and 90 courses. We're not talking about some new radical idea here. It's just continuing what already exists instead of letting things get messed up for some people because of a new overpowered update. which is why the requirements should be monkey madness and/or another slice of ham, not legends. Legends and fremmy trials restrict some accounts that have access to dorgeshun and ape atoll. And those accounts were made before this update. Take my account for example. It falls right under that category. So does my friend lv 100 hax. There are plenty of others as well. Adding the requirement of legends simply restricts certain players from accessing this agility feature that were able to access every agility option before for no reason.

02-Dec-2013 10:00:35 - Last edited on 02-Dec-2013 10:06:43 by Celtic

02-Dec-2013 10:05:51

I'm not sure how Another Slice of H.A.M. or Monkey Madness are related to Relekka and Ardougne or why you picked those two quests in the first place. I think you're trying to copy the existing reqs for Ape Atoll and Dorgesh-Kaan; however you messed up. Dorgesh-Kaan requires Death to the Dorgeshuun, not Another Slice of H.A.M. I don't think the new courses should have the exact same quest requirements; just do quests that have similar combat restrictions relevant to those cities.

Relekka can easily have Fremennik Trials as its requirement. Ardougne can have any Ardougne quest that has a combat requirement. Even if Legends is picked and blocks a new small group of people from using the Ardougne course, that group would still be able to use whichever courses they already can access when they chose to restrict themselves to in the first place when they decided to become pures. Frankly, having such a large quest like Legends required to access the best Agility course in the game really does make perfect sense lol. I haven't even done it yet though...

And Mod Ash, keep with your stated Xp rate goals, at least for higher levels. Varrock, Canifis, and Falador can be adjusted a bit higher in my opinion. You greatly underestimated the potential Xp rates already available in the 20-52 range by skipping Skullball, Brimhaven, and the Agility Pyramid. Skullball and Brimhaven actually require a great deal of skill with a big difference in the Xp rate given based on that, so any timing attempt on those two would be greatly off. Still, all easily give more than 20k Xp/hr, regardless of if you are greatly skilled. Brimhaven eventually scales up quite nicely at even higher levels.

Also, learning that Dorgesh-Kaan is really 62k+ Xp/hr does not mean you should now aim to put Ardougne at 70k because it'd only end up much higher than that. Stick with your current aim of 62k Xp/hr and we'll manage to get higher rates on our own due to having more practice and skill.

02-Dec-2013 10:07:19 - Last edited on 02-Dec-2013 10:32:51 by Jebrim

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Relekka can easily have Fremennik Trials as its requirement. Ardougne can have any Ardougne quest that has a combat requirement. Even if Legends is picked and blocks a new small group of people from using the Ardougne course, that group would still be able to use whichever courses they already can access when they chose to restrict themselves to in the first place when they decided to become pures. Frankly, having such a large quest like Legends required to access the best Agility course in the game really does make perfect sense lol. I haven't even done it yet though...

And Mod Ash, keep with your stated Xp rate goals, at least for higher levels. Varrock, Canifis, and Falador can be adjusted a bit higher in my opinion. You greatly underestimated the potential Xp rates already available in the 20-52 range by skipping Skullball, Brimhaven, and the Agility Pyramid. Skullball and Brimhaven actually require a great deal of skill with a big difference in the Xp rate given based on that, so any timing attempt on those two would be greatly off. Still, all easily give more than 20k Xp/hr, regardless of if you are greatly skilled. Brimhaven eventually scales up quite nicely at even higher levels.

Also, learning that Dorgesh-Kaan is really 62k+ Xp/hr does not mean you should now aim to put Ardougne at 70k because it'd only end up much higher than that. Stick with your current aim of 62k Xp/hr and we'll manage to get higher rates on our own due to having more practice and skill.

The fun part in pures is being limited and they choose it. They also have limitations currently (eg. Thieving). So this is just rightfully following the trend.
Agreed. I think Ardougne max rate should be from 67k to 69k. Current max rate is probably near this so I'm satisfied.

Yep, I fully expect their stated goal of 62k Xp/hr to end up being between 67k and 69k, so np there.

02-Dec-2013 15:30:16

02-Dec-2013 16:34:06