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GingeVonDeek

GingeVonDeek

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reading the blog it states that over half of players surveyed support the proposal and thought it to be necessary and so you have taken the decision to nurf these items. why then if half the players think it should be polled are you not polling it? the integrity of the game comes from the players as this was the agreement runescape took when reopening the game. You said you would not make the same mistakes that were made by RS3 but by enforcing this you are going back on your commitment.

21-Jan-2021 18:08:46

RealSheeva
Oct Member 2018

RealSheeva

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Seriously Jagex. I don't even have a dog in this fight and it is plain to see this is NOT acceptable. You pride yourselves on "community involvement" but you show your true colors with an update like this.

How can you justify negating thousands of hours players have invested into your game, (a game mind you which claims to poll every update and change to the game), on such a scale like this? How can you justify only NOW, YEARS AFTER these items have been introduced, people have played with them, had THOUSANDS OF HOURS theorycrafting and testing, going in and making massive, sweeping changes to the meta-game, and completely wiping some accounts, and achievements out of the game.

I have supported Jagex through all these years by SUBSCRIPTION on all of my accounts, because I believed in their purpose of determining, only with the help, and direct input from their community, the best course of action for updates, and game-integrity changes.

After all, who know best but the players?

Since Jagex has decided to sidestep their responsibility of thoroughly investigating, and convincing their community that these changes were the best, I see no reason to continue financially supporting this (now Chinese-owned) company.

I will play this game from now, for the indefinite future using only bonds, acquired through grinding in game; making my accounts all effectively free-to-play and meaning I no longer give Jagex ANY money in support of their cause.

I can only hope that one day, this (now Chinese-owned) company crashes, burns, and some honorable soul brings back the ideology which spawned 07'scape to begin with.

@Jagex
You have lost touch of your purpose, even though you yourself claim it to be your only goal. Until you find it again, I cannot in good faith support you financially. I hope you can reassess your position, right the wrongs you have cast, and atone the wholly dismissive way you treat caring, passionate members of your community.

21-Jan-2021 18:12:25

RealSheeva
Oct Member 2018

RealSheeva

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In short - reverse these changes and poll them. Stop ignoring people's concerns, and thinking you know better than your community.

You don't. That's why you ruined Runescape starting in 2007 and you're doing your best to do that now.

21-Jan-2021 18:14:44

ncnub
Jun Member 2023

ncnub

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Veteran player here. I remember playing when Hunter, Summoning, and the big graphical update came out.

Now I'm a casual player, getting on when not "adulting", and looking forward to a few years of future playtime

I am all for the proposed changes, and even more. I agree with the mods, that the tier system is pure chaos past dragon items at tier 60. These should definitely be reworked, whether that involves changing the level, and or giving additional requirements.

Obviously, these items are strongly tied to the market, and these changes are going to wreak havoc on the prices. However, eventually they will stabilize based off of their availability and usability. I know you also are aware of the huge botting problem driving down prices of many of these items, due to the increase in supply. A manner of combating this, and likewise increasing the feasibility of much mid/high tier content, would be to make many of the mid -> high tier items should be made consumable. Granted, this would also increase the botting of said items, and as such attention should be put into deterring them. However, this fits within the discussion of rebalancing the equipment...Maybe some items dont have to be nerfed as much if they had the looming threat of permanently breaking

21-Jan-2021 18:15:49

Mr Laser
Jun Member 2016

Mr Laser

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I think that rebalancing weapons and armour is generally a good idea for the future of the game, and the proposed changes will be a tough pill to swallow but a good change for the future. black d hide needs a nerf no doubt. Removing prayer bonus from tbow fine. the buffs are good to give us stab and crush equivilants to scimitars early on, great changes. The nerf to Blowpipe is a bit much in my opinion but it is no doubt the go to weapon for alot of things completely out dpsing any alternative so it deffinetly needs a nerf, but it seems like a big one in this case, imo you should only nerf accuracy and leave ranged str as it is, that way it cant be used at bosses as effective but would still be a very strong weapon for low defense slayer/monsters. Where i completely disagree is the bullwark, its already a very niche item with very few uses but where it shines is tanking in pvp, giving it -25 magic and basicly a 35% nerf to overall defensive stats would make it completely useless for tanking and it would have 1 less use for an already niche item. most people, and i speak from experience tank with black d hide and a bullwark so if the changes to black d hide go ahead there is no need to nerf the bullwark too, since using them together if they both gets nerfed would be a catastrophe for tanking.

21-Jan-2021 18:16:30

ncnub
Jun Member 2023

ncnub

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Ignore all the remarks regarding "This changes the meta. You cant do this"

Sooooo many other games have ever evolving items/playable characters that change the Meta on a (sometimes) monthly basis. These changes are all accepted by their communities because they adapt to it.

You the mods have put in your blood sweat and tears, to come up with a good solution to allow the game to survive.

21-Jan-2021 18:20:27

efcherry

efcherry

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I love playing rs3 until the team decided eoc was best for the game. The main reason for me coming back was one they are bringing my favorite game back and 2 the community has control on the progress to help keep it alive. The fact that you are taking steps towards change the game while the majority of the community wants to vote on this is insane. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS....... LET US VOTE. If the community wants it that's fine.

I have no issue balance the game BUT DO NOT TAKE MY RIGHT TO VOTE AWAY. This update is not worth hurting your community's relationship. I never have any issues with this and this is my first form post but this is something I really care about and hate seeing the " team" make changes that could result in hurting osrs and me playing a different game.

I have played this game since 07 and I would hate to start another form saying " BRING OSRS BACK." I hope you found the value in this post and do reconsider making this happen instead of forcing it on the community.

- OSF Cherry

21-Jan-2021 18:20:37

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