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huijari ari

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And I actually did succeed in explaining what you asked me to, which was to explain how jagex will be at fault if the game is destroyed with updates that 75% of players support, and that was what most of my last reply was all about. It is up to jagex what requests they put on polls, therefore it will always be their responsibility, therefore their fault if something gets or doesn't get accepted.

From here on you confused me about alot of things. I'm not sure what this "f2p issue" thing is that you're going on about and I'm not sure whose minds im trying to change by name calling or insulting, furthermore I'm not trying to get anyone to vote yes or no to a specific poll by posting here so again I'm not sure where you got that from

You mention F2p themed servers in two paragraphs when I never even talked about them. Were you replying to someone else or am I missing something here? I can't see the selfishness in my posts either. You seem to think that I'm trying to get people to vote yes or no on certain categories when I'm actually not; I'm merely against bringing godswords into pking and zmi, but I never talked about f2p servers nor am I trying to get people to vote no on GWD/ZMI because I'm positive that the majority is on my side on them (just by reading some of the replies on this thread, I haven't even looked at what the voting %'s looked like).

27-Mar-2013 03:06:12 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2013 03:16:09 by huijari ari

Zelda64rules

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Sci, if what you say is true, OSRS is doomed to fail, because lack of updates means the game will go stagnant and boring. This will cause people to quit, leaving the servers like the Classic servers. Due to them watching for vote sabotage, you can be assured 75% or more of the community wants a certain update.

Most, if not all, of the bad updates are beyond the OSRS dev team as they stand, so you have nothing to worry about in the short term. Plus, OSRS has be benefit of hindsight for many potential updates. This will influence how the community views certain updates. The Grand Exchange, for instance will never get 75% because people know that it came with the sharp decline of legit players.

Like I said earlier, if AGS (the main reason people don't want GWD to come to OSRS) only became a problem in PKing after Summoning/ Gravestones, Gravestones will never happen and Summoning (if it comes at all) can be changed so that the AGS won't become a problem.
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27-Mar-2013 07:15:48

KingAether

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You realize you guys are basically arguing weather a pendulum sits on the left or right side, heres a secret; It sits in the middle.. Your both right and wrong. It is Jagex's fault for letting us vote on certain things, but also, there only adding polls for things contested on the forums between players and we are the ones voting so in essence it is the players fault to. More so the players fault in my opinion but Jagex should not be adding GWD poll anyway, they know its a stupid option and that is unbalances the game but there is enough players QQ'ing over it i guess.

27-Mar-2013 08:41:07

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Pvmers and Pkers need to meet in the middle. but seems 90% of pkers are ignorant. its not even skill pking wit rune+whip+dds its still luck base. u want real skill hybrid wit mage. thats real pking. most of you so called pkers have no skill.

wats the difference obby maul+gmauling or void dbowing, dds rushing, gettin a lucky hit wit dh. Takes no skill waiting for lucky hits. its just luck pking. I laugh when yall cry about ags spec like it hits 100%. u wanna know how not to get spec'd out? use barrows gear. its usually cheap too.

just make it so no gs specs in wildy, problem solved. everyone can have fun. this game needs end game content tho for high lvls. gwd wont d-value barrows gear. gwd items wont even come into the game that fast. kills are sloww. u cant solo many kills. drop rate like 1:75

also 75%+ yes vote for a pass is a bit to high. should only be 60% needed. having a massive group of players agree on massive content updates is next to impossible. its like getting a country to vote 75% yes for a specific leader to be. obvious n simple no brainer interface poll votes will pass. but not massive content updates. not at 75%. how about we need a 75% no vote to not add GWD?? see the logic. u wont get a 75% no or yes vote. GWD was 2007.



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27-Mar-2013 09:03:05

Of The Soul

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•Improved routefinding - YES! Headaches will be saved

•Themed world list - No, let the players decide.

•Stop Agility bottlenecks - Yes why not.

*Mouse camera - Meh no harm done here either

•Login queues - Not really feeling it, not old school style. Theres a vibe that came with trying to get into full worlds.

27-Mar-2013 09:16:30 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2013 09:16:57 by Of The Soul

Erumelthir
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Hate @ the 75% though, theoretically 74% wants something and 26% doesn't, and then the majority of the OSRS community is let down. Unidentified > Grimy is really what I wanted from the entire poll! Pity it's one of the things that was controversial and did not make it, even though a majority voted yes and that majority was let down.

ZMI and more achievement diary's would definitely be great!

I don't see the big deal why people would vote against the PK worlds, if people want to use them, let them be. It's only good for the economy, increased food and potion prices, as well as pure sets and arrows and runes.

27-Mar-2013 13:57:15

Pescao6
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lets think for a bit... what happens if PKing becomes/remains the core of this game?

---Skilling is a waste of time. Why spend 3 hours earning 5mil when a single hour of PKing can earn you 10mil?
---Treasure trails are ruined. Why spend 1-10 hours doing a TT when the reward is so much less than the reward from PKing? And all the good rewards are in the wild, where your prize will be stolen by underlevelled mob-rushers?
---PvM is already useless. We need more PvM activities that drop high value items to balance out the rewards from PKing
---Successful PKers will become even more successful due to massive resources at their disposal, while the poor will remain forever poor. People will not enjoy the game and will quit because they can never be "a winner" unless they PK or RWT.
---Questing is about the only thing not ruined by PKing.

Do you really want to play an MMO where the ONLY way to earn a decent amount of money is to kill others? The game will become a bloodbath with no diversity at all...

I hate PKing and would rather see it obliterated from the game... but in the name of Guthix, I vote for balance.
Your incorrect understanding of RuneScape 2007 upsets me.

First of all, the 2007 Wilderness has something for everybody - Gatherers, Skillers, Boss Hunters attracting enough people for Pkers to kill. If you can't see that, you need to spend more time in the Wilderness. You'll find the Chaos Elemental, King Black Dragons, Red and Green Dragons to be profitable monsters for you to kill as well as many treasures for you to grab if you dare to venture into the Wilderness.

We don't need GWD and PVM is not useless in RuneScape 2007. It's simply as profitable as Skilling and as dangerous as Pking. If you don't like that because you want to make quick money ruining the economy for Skillers and Pkers, go back to the EOC where safe PVM is the quickest way to make money.
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27-Mar-2013 14:11:58

Pescao6
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The [God weapons] were definitely NOT overpowered; the barrows armours are stacked towards defence [and] we need armours that are stacked towards dps too, and the GWD items filled that ticket.
Before God Wars Dungeon was introduced, the Dragon Scimitar was the best weapon to train Strength since you couldn't efficiently do that with a Whip. GWD brought Godswords and the Saradomin Sword, which are both better weapons to train Strength making it EASIER for people to max out their Strength Levels. :O

We don't need stronger weapons. If you haven't noticed, the EOC is currently suffering a major decline in PVP and PVM activity because abilities are overpowered taking the fun out of the game.

GWD REWARDS = EASY RUNESCAPE = BAD RUNESCAPE :@

And just to name a few other problems that came with GWD, the Fighter Torso was replaced with the Bandos Chestplate, Dragon platelegs that was replaced with the Bandos Tassets, Rune boots that were replaced with the Dragon boots, and the Dragon Spear was replaced with the Zamorakian Spear.

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nex gave us a perfect set of ultimate endgame items. Im all for them.
We already have the perfect set of ultimate endgame items in RuneScape 2007; they're called Barrows items - ***ny how the best sets of 2007 are still some of the best sets of 2013. ;)

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There godswords are essential for end-game PvMing!
O_o No, they're not. People were doing just fine with the Dragon 2h sword, Dragon scimitar, Whip, Barrelchest anchor, and Dharok's greataxe before Godswords ruined the game.

And if you want to tackle some strong bosses on RuneScape 2007 safe from Pkers, I'd advise trying out the Dagannoth Kings and Kalphite Queen the "Old School" way with "Old School" weapons. You'll find it's a better challenge than killing GWD bosses with GWD overpowered weapons. :P
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27-Mar-2013 14:12:15

Remarkable1
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All I know is if God Wars is reintroduced with God Swords it will once again totally ruin pking, which I would say is the main reason most people came back to play runescape. For the first time since 2007 and I have been playing since 03 or 04 I am actually excited to play runescape again. Please do not add God Wars! There is no reason to ever be able and hit 80's unless you are risking yourself at very low health such as with dharoks. It makes no sense. And if you add it with the idea of making it pvm only i guarantee eventually it will be made able to be used in pvp which will ruin it again. Don't add God Wars! Please and Thank You! ^_^

27-Mar-2013 16:03:03

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