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Angel2D4

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"But I think history will repeat itself and it wouldn't surprise me as from my own experience, the employees at Jagex HQ are generally low on intelligence/IQ and tend to not have a clue about how to keep their players playing the game"

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It's funny (not funny, entertaining either) how anyone would try to place blame on Jagex for things that may or may not go wrong this time around.

You're quick to insult Jagex... but it's the players who will force history to repeat itself this time, NOT jagex.

Imagine each and every player gets the opportunity to have "just one thing" put into this game. Just ONE.

Even Jagex couldn't/wouldn't do the kind of damage to this game that the collective community wants done.

You can't lay this one on Jagex... they're putting out ideas of what they're capable of (not what they want in the game).. it'll be the player base that ruins RS this time, not Jagex. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

26-Mar-2013 18:31:38

huijari ari

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It's funny (not funny, entertaining either) how anyone would try to place blame on Jagex for things that may or may not go wrong this time around.

You're quick to insult Jagex... but it's the players who will force history to repeat itself this time, NOT jagex.

Imagine each and every player gets the opportunity to have "just one thing" put into this game. Just ONE.

Even Jagex couldn't/wouldn't do the kind of damage to this game that the collective community wants done.

You can't lay this one on Jagex... they're putting out ideas of what they're capable of (not what they want in the game).. it'll be the player base that ruins RS this time, not Jagex.
you're probably one of those kids who sit there skilling or playing fishing trawler and castle wars with their clan and vote yes to everything that'll potentially either ruin pking or make skilling easier

Also can you please explain how players make jagex ruin the 07 servers unless you're referring to people voting y/n to polls against your wishes which is only ruining it in your and in few other simple minded individuals' minds. Before long you'll see jagex coming up with more archived updates from late 07 or possibly early 08. Updates that ruined the game bit by bit. But oh well, you're probably hoping for living rock caverns and advanced agility courses so you can max out in 07 servers ASAP! :P Moron

26-Mar-2013 21:07:39

Zplinter

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@TinyKitten


OOOOH we play this game to earn money? I thought we played it because we like the gameplay, the skilling, the pking.. everything, and adding GWD or GE will ruin that. I can clearly see that you just want to make some money that you *an sell for real life cash, get a job insted. This game aint about money its about having fun.

Yes, this game, as every other game, is about making money.
Each section of the game - questing, skilling, PKing, PvMing, etc. - is played and enjoyed in it's own right, but they need a purpose to further the game. The purpose is to obtain wealth so you can purchase items to use at higher levels.
Money is the glue that joins each of these features together.

And please don't tell me you have never chopped yes for hours, or mined coal for hours, or fished for hours, just to sell for money so you can buy an awesome item. If you try to say you have never, I'll call you a liar =)

And I don't appreciate you saying that I sell RS money for real money. That is a false accusation. Just as you love PKing, I love making money. We both play the game in our own styles. Please respect that =)

Cant say i have. Mine stuff, smith it, sell to get better pickaxe, or make arrows or anything else that i need for my other stuff. When i do those things i do them in the need for myself, i earn my cash slaying monsters, not much of a pker usally allways die. And the cash i earn i spend in things i need at the moment, i cant say im wealthy. or ever have been, all cash made allways get stuck into an item or things i need to level or to do other things. biggest cash pile i had must be 30m to buy bandos items.

So no this game is far from getting wealthy for me. i play for the fun of it.. And destroying the game with GWD is the stupidest thing that could happen. As the game is at its top right now at this moment.

26-Mar-2013 21:35:38

Angel2D4

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"you're probably one of those kids who sit there skilling or playing fishing trawler and castle wars with their clan and vote yes to everything that'll potentially either ruin pking or make skilling easier

Also can you please explain how players make jagex ruin the 07 servers unless you're referring to people voting y/n to polls against your wishes which is only ruining it in your and in few other simple minded individuals' minds. Before long you'll see jagex coming up with more archived updates from late 07 or possibly early 08. Updates that ruined the game bit by bit. But oh well, you're probably hoping for living rock caverns and advanced agility courses so you can max out in 07 servers ASAP! Moron"

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Well first let's clarify that YOU are the one wanting to blame jagex for any potential update the game sees (with a 75% requirement, the players will be at fault).

Next, I feel compelled to point out that you instantly resort to name calling (something many without substance to their argument use). Honestly, in spite of your rudeness, I'd like you to explain how jagex will be at fault if the game is destroyed with updates that 75% of players support. You cannot.

As for me and what I would or wouldn't support for this old game... I think my posts speak CLEARLY that I don't support changing this old game much at all.

I'm one of those screaming that bank tabs make the game easier (opposing easier and faster for this old game)... saying I'll vote no for GWD, and strongly opposing having crops noted at the farm (because it makes farming easier).

If you really want to know what someone else thinks or believes.. perhaps it's better to NOT assume you already "know" everything... kid. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

26-Mar-2013 21:42:21

huijari ari

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Well first let's clarify that YOU are the one wanting to blame jagex for any potential update the game sees (with a 75% requirement, the players will be at fault).

Next, I feel compelled to point out that you instantly resort to name calling (something many without substance to their argument use). Honestly, in spite of your rudeness, I'd like you to explain how jagex will be at fault if the game is destroyed with updates that 75% of players support. You cannot.

no.

The players will only be partially at fault. The fact that jagex even provides the opportunity for them to vote for new content is purely jagex's fault. its jagex that introduces the polls to the updates aka the possibilities for the game to be ruined.

therefore, new content is the players fault IF 75% vote for it, but jagex's fault for giving the players the opportunity, which is why I said "I highly recommend you watch your step when it comes to adding "New content".", but I think you skipped that part in my original post.

therefore, Any new content to be or not to be added into the game, be it destructive or not = jagex fault. You on the other hand are trying to say that it's the players that decide what the polls are gonna be about, which they are not, as far as I know of. There, I explained it. So much of your "You cannot.".

Finally, I feel compelled to point out that I didn't instantly resort to name calling, I presented a personal opinion about the person I was replying to, the name calling was left out to the end of the reply. I completely understand your point here but you fail to understand who is responsible for possibility of new content and that is the reason I "resorted to name calling", it had nothing to do with lack of substance to my argument as you would say.

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26-Mar-2013 23:21:50

Angel2D4

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"therefore, new content is the players fault IF 75% vote for it, but jagex's fault for giving the players the opportunity, which is why I said "I highly recommend you watch your **ep when it comes to adding "New content".", but I think you skipped that part in my original post."

No. I didn't "miss" any part of what you said (and if I did you just repeated it in the first half of the above quote).

What you are implying is that Jagex should NOT listen to this community, and that nothing should ever be put on a poll because if they "offer" ANYTHING, and the players say yes (75% of them or more), that YOU believe it's still Jagex's fault if the game is destroyed (by the players approving any or all updates).

In case you hadn't noticed... Jagex isn't twisting arms or holding you hostage until you vote yes on ANYTHING.

You're saying you believe Jagex should decide ALL potential updates.. and you're saying that with full knowledge and understanding of what happened the last time... and you're implying that Jagex listening to the community is what will be the downfall of this game.. and you couldn't be MORE WRONG.

"You on the other hand are trying to say that it's the players that decide what the polls are gonna be about, which they are not, as far as I know of. There, I explained it. So much of your "You cannot."."

Again, you couldn't be more wrong.

The players are the ONLY ones deciding what updates they will or won't accept (again, there is NO arm twisting or hostage taking here). Have you been in THESE forums?

It's the players suggesting all kinds of torture for this old game (yeah, melodrama certainly fits IMO), NOT jagex. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

27-Mar-2013 00:58:47

Angel2D4

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You failed to "explain" anything at all.. except that you will place blame on jagex regardless of who is ACTUALLY at fault when things go south.

Another pker who's ticked that Jagex put f2p themed worlds on a poll instead of in the game and now you want to blame Jagex for your lack of interest in anything besides f2p pking.

You want them to not listen to the community... to not poll anything at all I guess.. because you lost the last round on the f2p issue. You go about trying to "change minds" by insulting and name calling and in fact it's going to backfire on you next week (the next poll... when people who voted yes this time, vote no next week as a means of protesting the rudeness displayed by that portion of the community).

While they're "not" listening to the rest of the community, you want them to listen to the pking portion of the community and simply add f2p styled servers (against the portion of the community who ALREADY voted no).

Selfishness is the one characteristic that displays quite well in text format (your posts have proven that much).

Put it on a poll (I really don't care "what" IT is).. let it stand or fall on its' own merits (and when you don't have 75% of the community supporting it, it will fail). If something has 75% or more in favor of it... and it's implemented.. it's the PLAYERS' FAULT, not Jagex. Get real. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

27-Mar-2013 00:59:09

huijari ari

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Yes I am implying that Jagex should NOT listen to this community, and that nothing should ever be put on a poll because if they "offer" ANYTHING, and the players say yes (OR NO), I believe it's still Jagex's fault if the game is destroyed (by the players approving any or all updates). And that makes perfect sense. If destructive content is implemented by jagex to let a group of people decide of it, it's still going to be jagex fault for letting this group to decide about it.

in the next paragraph you went wrong though.

No I'm not saying that Jagex should decide ALL updates, I'm saying they shouldn't add updates to 07 servers at all. And yes they shouldn't listen to a community that requests updates that already took place in 2007 or after that because next thing you know there's a poll about a bh crater instead of wilderness, whether jagex listening to what players want into 07 servers is the downfall of the game, thats debatable and completely depends on what the players are going to want. You can't really argue that.

if the players are the ones to decide about what content to bring into the game, it completely depends on what the players intend on bringing, they might come up with something convenient but also something very stupid. That's why I want the game to stay as it is and have no new content added (bar utility stuff like search options in the bank etc.)

Have I been to these forums? No. I don't read rsof because of the general level of runescape players. I have no clue about how Jagex came up with the polls and today was the first time I have posted on here ever since getting banned from HLF about a year ago. I got linked to this thread on internet relay chat. Make sure you read my follow up post on the next page before replying to this.

27-Mar-2013 02:53:22 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2013 03:13:50 by huijari ari

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