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Wacky Seed

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In this case I believe the pros outweigh the cons.


And I believe that the cons outweigh the pros.

BTW, I use the death metaphor because bonds will kill the game.


They won't kill the game, people have been saying updates will kill the game for ages, they've been saying they'll quit if something gets released etc etc and none of those things come true. Bonds won't ruin the game, even though I disagree with squeel/solomans/eoc the game is still alive and well and always has more players on than oldschool so it seems the games not dieing

why don't you understand that rwting is happening no matter what, it has been for a couple of years, this just makes it much safer if it's added to osrs. You're making these ridicules statements and making believe you are just trying to troll. Bonds killing the game? get real here, there have been MUCH worse updates and the game still lives.

20-Jul-2014 04:08:20

Wacky Seed

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you're example are always about killing and are irrelevant to the topic at hand. I could compare pros and cons of anything and killing. It's a ridicules comparison and leads you to be regarded as a troll.

In this case I believe the pros outweigh the cons. Swapping gold between games ruins the game more than scamming? Perfect! lets get bonds added, no more swapping or scamming!


This is nonsense. Gold swapping and pay to win are bad because of the effects they have on the integrity of the game. Adding bonds would introduce those same effects , thus accomplishing nothing positive.


what integrity is this? it's around already, adding bonds to eoc will get rid of a lot of the gold swapping (great!) and won't effect the pay to win. and if you're saying nothing positive will be accomplished? what about the reduced scams going on with gold transfering?

20-Jul-2014 04:10:02

Mattrellen

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Ok, so it MAY increase rwting slightly, but to benefit the company. There is one fault, where as I gave 3 pros.

How is scamming ever a good thing? it ruins the community.


Scamming isn't good, but fear of scamming can be.

Anyway, maybe Jagex should no longer have memberships, we all play for free.

Pros:

1. Happier players.
2. More money for all current members.
3. More players.
4. Pay to win in RS3 looks more justified, since cash shops are for free games to make money.

Cons:

1. Jagex loses money.


1 con, 4 pros. Sounds like a heck of a deal.

20-Jul-2014 04:11:12

Wacky Seed

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Ok, so it MAY increase rwting slightly, but to benefit the company. There is one fault, where as I gave 3 pros.

How is scamming ever a good thing? it ruins the community.


Scamming isn't good, but fear of scamming can be.

Anyway, maybe Jagex should no longer have memberships, we all play for free.

Pros:

1. Happier players.
2. More money for all current members.
3. More players.
4. Pay to win in RS3 looks more justified, since cash shops are for free games to make money.

Cons:

1. Jagex loses money.


1 con, 4 pros. Sounds like a heck of a deal.


Cool, another ignorant/troll post.

Also you forgot that one of the cons would be that the game would shutdown due to no funds

stop trying to troll, if you have nothing relevant to say don't post

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I play osrs solely for the old style of the gameplay, adding bond microstransactions would make it feel too much like the regular runescape.


How? it's only bonds...you would literally never even notice it unless you were looking to buy them. It doesn't effect the old style of gameplay, just a different way to get membership for those who don't have the money or don't want to spend the money...or don't have a credit card

20-Jul-2014 04:14:49 - Last edited on 20-Jul-2014 04:16:08 by Wacky Seed

Lowerniel

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1. Microtransactions will kill a game that's only played on a large scale to be free from microtransactions and ability bars.

2. RS3 is only living on past success. Log on and you'll see that 85% of RS3 players are maxed or near-maxed.

3. Botting happens no matter what, but instead of being push-overs about it, Jagex did something about it! Why can't we put our foot down on RWT, rather than legalizing it?

4. Why is making it safer to buy in-game advantages with real-life money helping anything?

5. Bad updates are subjective. In my opinion, microtransactions were the worst update in RS history.

20-Jul-2014 04:18:07

Pix869
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you're example are always about killing and are irrelevant to the topic at hand. I could compare pros and cons of anything and killing. It's a ridicules comparison and leads you to be regarded as a troll.

In this case I believe the pros outweigh the cons. Swapping gold between games ruins the game more than scamming? Perfect! lets get bonds added, no more swapping or scamming!


This is nonsense. Gold swapping and pay to win are bad because of the effects they have on the integrity of the game. Adding bonds would introduce those same effects , thus accomplishing nothing positive.


what integrity is this? it's around already, adding bonds to eoc will get rid of a lot of the gold swapping (great!) and won't effect the pay to win. and if you're saying nothing positive will be accomplished? what about the reduced scams going on with gold transfering?



Let me give you a real-world example:
Let's say that bonds are worth 1 million gp each on OSRS. It's an arbitrary high number, but for the sake of argument let's go with it.

I currently can make about 1 million gp an hour thieving the rogue's chest in the wilderness. I also make ~$30 an hour at my job. If I work for one hour at my job, I can now afford to give Jagex enough money to avoid playing the game for 6 hours of grinding.

That is why bonds are harmful to the game. They allow real-life wealth to take the place of actually having to play the game.

It's that simple.

20-Jul-2014 04:23:17 - Last edited on 20-Jul-2014 04:24:49 by Pix869

Lowerniel

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I play osrs solely for the old style of the gameplay, adding bond microstransactions would make it feel too much like the regular runescape.


How? it's only bonds...you would literally never even notice it unless you were looking to buy them. It doesn't effect the old style of gameplay, just a different way to get membership for those who don't have the money or don't want to spend the money...or don't have a credit card


You'll notice them when some rich **** walks into Varrock with full third age and gets lost on his way to Falador.

PS, membership is only $7. If you can't cough that up then maybe you spend your time working rather than playing a game.

20-Jul-2014 04:23:33

Negev 5

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Do not add bonds to osrs! I don't want to see any of this stupid stuff polled, you already ruined eoc with microtransactions,why ruin osrs with microtransactions?! I like playing osrs, because there are no microtrsansactions and there is the old combat system, and lots more. But If you add bonds to osrs, large amouts of money will be like nothing because of bonds. And I don't understand why people support these kinds of things, like... do they even know what they are doing? You just keep on making eoc worse and worse, so I am telling you right now: DO NOT ruin osrs with bad stuff.

so if you add microtransactions I will quit! When eoc was coming, I started to wish I had a maxed acount. I would feel the same way if bonds get added to osrs. That is because I didn't want to play after that.

20-Jul-2014 04:24:05

Mattrellen

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Cool, another ignorant/troll post.

Also you forgot that one of the cons would be that the game would shutdown due to no funds

stop trying to troll, if you have nothing relevant to say don't post


Uhh...that's one of the cons to adding microtransactions too.

Nearest I can tell, that's the biggest reason for the drop in player population between late 2011 and mid 2012, after looking though the updates.

Now, the game hasn't shut down over it, but when 500k people used to play on a Saturday afternoon, compared to now...and like I said, the drop I noticed, from checking back a few times, was after Nov 2011 and before Aug 2012.

20-Jul-2014 04:26:55

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