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seems quite a lot of people just say no after seeing its bonds without further thinking
I agree introduce bonds that can be paid with real life money will lead to pay2win, which probably most dont want to see.
however, bonds also help people who cant/dont have much money in real life to be able to purchase membership using in-game gp
If we can find a way which doesnt bring pay2win to osrs while jagex can do it, then it will be a very good addiction to osrs

Honestly, if someone doesn't have enough money to play RS, their entertainment budget is likely so small that they don't have internet, anyway.

The number of people that would want membership and actually be unable to pay for it is likely so incredibly small that we shouldn't worry about it. We're talking about people who cannot go to a movie on their entertainment budget, but at the same time either have internet or access to public internet.

There's no way that could replace the people that would quit over bonds. Only a handful would have to.

What's more, to earn bonds on OSRS with cash, you'd have to ALREADY be a member, and you would never be able to let your membership slip for even a single day, so now we're talking about people who have internet access, so little money for entertainment that they can't see a movie every month, AND that can perpetuate membership only though buying bonds for in game gold.

We can likely draw more new members by changing the color of black armor by a shade or two.

Thank you for having an IQ above 30.

30 days of membership is like 20 cents a day depending on where you live. And with internet access and other things you mentioned, it shouldn't be an issue what so ever. Leave that Rwt to the live game lol.

19-Jul-2014 05:38:18

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Mod reach posted a while back that the GP could be kept on RS3

The way he was explaining it, it would be like:

Player RS3 buys bond
Player RS3 sells bond on GE
Player OSRS buys a bond for OSRS gp from an NPC
Player RS3 gets the RS3 GP, Player OSRS GP is removed from the game in exchange for an untradable bond

Is this out of the cards then..? because he seemed pretty hopeful that something like this was possible.. Obviously it would need a fixed OSRS>RS3 gp rate, but I don't see why something like this couldn't work, with some work?

Support of this, I would not support it if OSRS became Pay to win.

The NPC could allow trading of only bonds from RS3/OSRS, call him 'Thenames Bond' or something - When the bond is purchased from the NPC for OSRS GP, the bond is removed from the GE in the main game (mid price).

Although there'd be a slight GP injection into RS3, it could be viable with a few tweaks and it'd mean OSRS players could buy Membership/RF tickets/Name changes, Jagex still makes money and there's no OSRS pay to win.

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Seems good to me. Also, to those who don't know, a bond is an RS3 that has the potential to give you 2-weeks of membership. Two bonds equals a month of member [/quote][/quote][/quote]

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19-Jul-2014 05:39:50

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Honestly, if someone doesn't have enough money to play RS, their entertainment budget is likely so small that they don't have internet, anyway.

The number of people that would want membership and actually be unable to pay for it is likely so incredibly small that we shouldn't worry about it. We're talking about people who cannot go to a movie on their entertainment budget, but at the same time either have internet or access to public internet.

There's no way that could replace the people that would quit over bonds. Only a handful would have to.

What's more, to earn bonds on OSRS with cash, you'd have to ALREADY be a member, and you would never be able to let your membership slip for even a single day, so now we're talking about people who have internet access, so little money for entertainment that they can't see a movie every month, AND that can perpetuate membership only though buying bonds for in game gold.

We can likely draw more new members by changing the color of black armor by a shade or two.

If you had the option to save $8 a month when you don't have to use it, wouldn't you take up on that offer? I'm pretty sure it's not about whether you can afford it or not, but if you have virtual money, and it can replace $8 in real life which you can use for something else, isn't that better? *8 * 12 = $96 (almost $100 a year). Stuff adds up man. People pay $8/month for Netflix. That's why my friend didn't want to pay either. People have phone, electricity, water etc bills.

19-Jul-2014 05:41:08 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2014 05:41:59 by Z A E L

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Bonds - Pay to Win - Rwt - Mtx - Economy unstable - Some more Mtx - Rwt continutes - Game population declines - Game revolves around experience/gp rather than fun with friends - Rip

Don't do this again, and I see a lot of people saying they want bonds. Do they even understand the effects they will have? The only good thing about them is that you'll be able to have an
EASIER
way to buy membership for OldSchool Runescape.

I say
EASIER
because you can already do it, just transfer some of your coins to Rs3 via a clan chat and buy a bond on there instead. Yes there's a slight risk that you will be scammed out of it but it's unlikely as there's a lot of legitimate clans that do transfer money. Just use the proper one. They wouldn't bother scamming for 600K.

Say no, and not just no but Hell NO to
Pay to Win


There can be solutions to avoid Pay2Win. An NPC could be placed in OSRS and could sell bonds. But really, it's a player in RS3 that's selling a bond on the GE. The RS3 player gets money, but the OSRS money that was paid to the NPC goes "nowhere" technically. That way OSRS isn't affected. There's a quoted text box that's going around that explains it.

Is there even a way that the two game engines can link together in that way? Nobody has mentioned it that sounds very unlikely.

The price of a Bond changes, they vary from 6-8M usually depending on many factors whether there's a new promotion, new override, etc.

So being able to buy them with 07 money from a NPC for a static amount of money that is always the same wouldn't work because someone would be getting scammed because it might cost more on Rs3.

Also there's the situation of what is Rs3 - 07 worth? 1:10? 1:5?

However there's always the possibility that the NPC will ask for a different amount of money depending on the price of a bond in Rs3.

Very unlikely however.

19-Jul-2014 05:43:49

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Btw guys mod mat k kind of replied to that post (not that specific post, another post of mine but it was basically saying the same thing)

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That was the original direction we were looking at. But there are significant technical difficulties and the risks to both economy's make it an nonviable option.

But really that's the only way I could really see bonds being accepted in this community, as much as people want to buy p2p and such for RS GP, I know i'm not alone here in saying it's not worth turning the game into a pay to win mess.

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Honestly, if someone doesn't have enough money to play RS, their entertainment budget is likely so small that they don't have internet, anyway.

The number of people that would want membership and actually be unable to pay for it is likely so incredibly small that we shouldn't worry about it. We're talking about people who cannot go to a movie on their entertainment budget, but at the same time either have internet or access to public internet.

There's no way that could replace the people that would quit over bonds. Only a handful would have to.

What's more, to earn bonds on OSRS with cash, you'd have to ALREADY be a member, and you would never be able to let your membership slip for even a single day, so now we're talking about people who have internet access, so little money for entertainment that they can't see a movie every month, AND that can perpetuate membership only though buying bonds for in game gold.

We can likely draw more new members by changing the color of black armor by a shade or two.

If you had the option to save $8 a month when you don't have to use it, wouldn't you take up on that offer? I'm pretty sure it's not about whether you can afford it or not, but if you have virtual money, and it can replace $8 in real life which you can use for something else, isn't that better? *8 * 12 = $96 (almost $100 a year). Stuff adds up man. People pay $8/month for Netflix. That's why my friend didn't want to pay either. People have phone, electricity, water etc bills.

No, i'd rather have to pay 10$/month to stop the game from being ruined as this is what bonds will do. I wouldn't want to continue playing a game where everything will mean nothing and things will be devalued if it means i'm saving some irl $.

19-Jul-2014 05:47:11

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If you had the option to save $8 a month when you don't have to use it, wouldn't you take up on that offer? I'm pretty sure it's not about whether you can afford it or not, but if you have virtual money, and it can replace $8 in real life which you can use for something else, isn't that better? *8 * 12 = $96 (almost $100 a year). Stuff adds up man. People pay $8/month for Netflix. That's why my friend didn't want to pay either. People have phone, electricity, water etc bills.

I...don't have to use $8 a month on RS. No one put a gun to my head, so, nah, I think I'm happy spending $8 a month for OSRS.

If we talk about bringing in new members with it, it IS about if they can afford it or not. In fact, we're talking about people who can't afford it and want to play OSRS exclusively.

If people just don't want to pay, there's RS3 still. Membership isn't separate.

Yes, there are other expenses, but that's why I talk about entertainment budget. Unless you enjoy seeing water boil in your microwave, electricity and water aren't in that category.

19-Jul-2014 05:48:42

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Bonds:

I'm a new player I've never played RuneScape much really but I want to and I have several thousand dollars as I have a high paying job. So i'm going to buy a few hundred bonds every once in awhile and buy my success on the game. (being able to train faster as obtaining money on the game is not an issue) I'll be one of the best players and I wont really know how to play the game I'll just have high stats and get through it easy without investing much time or effort.

That's bonds..

You might think that situation is unlikely but it's there and happens on Rs3.

19-Jul-2014 05:50:49

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