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1uz 6 speed
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How self centred is it of you to expect it to pass just so that PKers can make some quick money? Again as I already said, PKers are the smallest section of the community. Question 4 from the poll 'Old School: About You!' has PKers making up 29% of the community, PvMers at 40% of the community and Skillers/Questers (Basically one and the same, after all you have to skill to quest) making up 20%/11% for a combined 31%. Therefore YOU are the self centred one by demanding something to pass that could harm the rest of the community.

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who said anything about making "quick money", all we are asking is having the ability to "make money" rather than lose money every single time due to ******** cost of pking supplies. as it is right now on **b a "normal" inventory for a pker (super set, 2 prayer pots (4), 3-4 karambwan, 21 sharks) comes out at over 63k and that's just a small inventory (no brew/super restores, special weapon) and that doesn't count the cost of the armor/weapon . Would you still go bandos if you were losing money every trips? would you do runecrafting if you lost money every trips? would you do fishing if you lost money every time you caught a fish? i dont think so. and referring to the % you mentioned ... 29% is not a small portion of the community ... more than 1/4 of the osrs community is PKer's ... when all that 29% quits because osrs's pking scene is dead who is going to buy the stuff you get when pvm'ing/skilling? when 5500 of osrs' (based on the 29% from the poll) 19000 community leaves it will be too late

17-Jul-2014 19:35:27 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2014 19:40:18 by 1uz 6 speed

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Again as I already said, PKers are the smallest section of the community. Question 4 from the poll 'Old School: About You!' has PKers making up 29% of the community, PvMers at 40% of the community and Skillers/Questers (Basically one and the same, after all you have to skill to quest) making up 20%/11% for a combined 31%. Therefore YOU are the self centred one by demanding something to pass that could harm the rest of the community.

You can't qualify skillers/questers as the same thing, tbh. Questers can be just as much PKers and PvMers since after all you need barrows gloves/ancients/venge/GDZ teleport etc for PKing.

That'd make skillers the smallest at 20%. Taking away PvPers or boring them and making them quit would kill this game very quickly. 29% isn't something to scoff at. Pking needs to be profitable and attractive to keep that 29% pleased. We don't want anything OP we want something that keeps the wild alive, however.

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who said anything about making "quick money", all we are asking is having the ability to "make money". Would you still go bandos if you were losing money every trips? would you do runecrafting if you lost money every trips? would you do fishing if you lost money every time you caught a fish? i dont think so. and referring to the % you mentioned ... 29% is not a small portion of the community ... more than 1/4 of the osrs community is PKer's ... when all that 29% quits because osrs's pking scene is dead who is going to buy the stuff you get when pvm'ing/skilling? when 5500 of osrs' (based on the 29% from the poll) 19000 community leaves it will be too late

People are asking for statuettes and an EP system like in 2010. I remember what that was like and how it was abused for quick money. I wouldn't mind additional incentives if they weren't generating gold from nothing, as I've said multiple times, but so many PKers are pushing for statuettes, which are NOT good for the economy.

If I were a PvMer and I enjoyed PvMing then yes, I would go to Bandos and lose money doing so. You should PK because you enjoy PKing and any profits you make alongside that are a benefit. The equivalent for me is playing minigames - I don't profit from them, in fact I normally make a loss, but they're my favourite aspect of the game.

29% wouldn't quit though. It's the same argument so many are making AGAINST the GE, including the JMods in that a lack of update doesn't cause a mass exodus. An update that people don't like does. I guarantee more people would quit the game because statuettes were introduced than would quit the game because they weren't. The fact you're still here, playing the game and have been doing without statuettes for the past year says it all.

17-Jul-2014 19:40:51

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You can't qualify skillers/questers as the same thing, tbh. Questers can be just as much PKers and PvMers since after all you need barrows gloves/ancients/venge/GDZ teleport etc for PKing.

That'd make skillers the smallest at 20%. Taking away PvPers or boring them and making them quit would kill this game very quickly. 29% isn't something to scoff at. Pking needs to be profitable and attractive to keep that 29% pleased. We don't want anything OP we want something that keeps the wild alive, however.

exactly ... all we're asking is that there is potential for us to not lose money every single time we step foot in the wild eventhough we get kills. As it currently stands, even if a pker has a positive K :D ratio, he's most likely still losing money due to the high price of supplies / armor

17-Jul-2014 19:42:38

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I myself will be voting no and i think everyone else should to to stop statues from progressing if all these updates continue its going to be eventually like Rs3 Why not jusr add ge while we are at? Oh wait....Trade solution

17-Jul-2014 19:46:01

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People are asking for statuettes and an EP system like in 2010. I remember what that was like and how it was abused for quick money. I wouldn't mind additional incentives if they weren't generating gold from nothing, as I've said multiple times, but so many PKers are pushing for statuettes, which are NOT good for the economy.

If I were a PvMer and I enjoyed PvMing then yes, I would go to Bandos and lose money doing so. You should PK because you enjoy PKing and any profits you make alongside that are a benefit. The equivalent for me is playing minigames - I don't profit from them, in fact I normally make a loss, but they're my favourite aspect of the game.

29% wouldn't quit though. It's the same argument so many are making AGAINST the GE, including the JMods in that a lack of update doesn't cause a mass exodus. An update that people don't like does. I guarantee more people would quit the game because statuettes were introduced than would quit the game because they weren't. The fact you're still here, playing the game and have been doing without statuettes for the past year says it all.

I'm 100% sure that if you lost 500k+ per bandos trip you would certainly not enjoy it and you can't compare mini-games' loss to pking's loss seriously ... for the same amount of time, you will lose alot more money pking as it is right now than doing mini games. More people will quit due to not having incentive/BH rather than the amount of people who will quit if there is such incentive and that's for sure because the PvM community is alot more resilient to updates than the Pking community which in turn make the Pking community much more volatile

17-Jul-2014 19:46:48

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If I were a PvMer and I enjoyed PvMing then yes, I would go to Bandos and lose money doing so. You should PK because you enjoy PKing and any profits you make alongside that are a benefit. The equivalent for me is playing minigames - I don't profit from them, in fact I normally make a loss, but they're my favourite aspect of the game.

29% wouldn't quit though. It's the same argument so many are making AGAINST the GE, including the JMods in that a lack of update doesn't cause a mass exodus. An update that people don't like does. I guarantee more people would quit the game because statuettes were introduced than would quit the game because they weren't. The fact you're still here, playing the game and have been doing without statuettes for the past year says it all.

I'm going to quote the same poll that you did: out of the 13000 votes, 45% voted "To acquire items and gold" on question 5. That pretty much shows that people don't want to be losing money on whatever they do, be it PvM'ing or Skilling OR Pking

17-Jul-2014 19:52:00

Jerksauce
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oh I have read it, and I see the direction that this is heading.None had a problem with the pk system in 2006.It was fine like it is now for years.We don't want the statues.and if this passes statues are next and the economy will be like Rs3.So by all means if you all want to pass this and Ruin old school>Then all of us can just play Rs3 cause it is becoming that anyhow.

17-Jul-2014 19:52:22

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