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Sfa05

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You're just an idiot. People like you are the reason this game will be PvPless by 2015. There was plenty of additions/modifications they could have done to the system they polled. This was just a base for them to build off of.


I'm not an idiot because I disagree with you. I would not mind if a Bounty Hunter was added, I was going to vote yes for it until this blog, but the fact that you PKers are lobbying for some sort of statue/EP system to be added, combined with what Ronan said in the post about rewards being added at a later date made me vote no. The fact that this WAS a base for them to build off was what made me vote no. If they had finished coming up with ideas for rewards and the like before this and put that to the poll, my vote may have been different (Although if it was statues, I'd have voted no).


We don't want exactly statuettes, but the idea of them is what's closest to a lot of pker's heads. I'm sure we can come up with a reward system that does not hurt the economy if mods are willing to work with us, but apparently they've ignored all our feedback.

We have plenty of sensible minds in the PvP community that know what sort of reactions updates would have, which is why we'd much rather a completed Bounty Hunter be polled rather than this + a promise to implement unknown rewards in the future. I agree with your fear but it's directed at the wrong people. It's not the fault of pkers that they're trying to suggest some sort of familiar reward, but rather Jagex's for their inability to mention what type of reward they'd like to implement and leaving it for us to create assumptions and split our PvP and Non-PvP communities apart like we are now. We just want BH to be a viable form of combat. It's not in its current form.

17-Jul-2014 18:27:17 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2014 18:28:10 by Sfa05

Flat Earth Z
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ik how bh used to work however why couldn't we just have untradeable reward items we could purchase from the statue brothers (one in edge one in lumb) similar to how they are now on rs3.

No need to involve boosteable material whatsoever

and when can we get resizeable osrs window so i can actually play the game LOL eye problems LOL can't play it atm

17-Jul-2014 18:29:37 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2014 18:30:44 by Flat Earth Z

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The poll for this is already out, just saying.

Thankfully it's not passing right now. Take your time with big updates and don't rush them out the door just for something to do and maybe you'll get somewhere.

17-Jul-2014 18:30:39

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We don't want exactly statuettes, but the idea of them is what's closest to a lot of pker's heads. I'm sure we can come up with a reward system that does not hurt the economy if mods are willing to work with us, but apparently they've ignored all our feedback.


It's good to hear that at least some of you are sensible, but any sort of system that creates GP from no where is bad to me, sorry. I like the idea of dropping actual supplies, that seems like the middle ground between what PKers want and what the rest of the community wants (No additional incentives), but after suggesting that to multiple PKers, all they do is come up with some ridiculous insult and state that 'statuettes are NEEDED' and that 'PKers are what make the game thrive' (Not true, they're the smallest section of the playerbase according to the poll last year).

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We have plenty of sensible minds in the PvP community that know what sort of reactions updates would have, which is why we'd much rather a completed Bounty Hunter be polled rather than this + a promise to implement unknown rewards in the future. I agree with your fear but it's directed at the wrong people. It's not the fault of pkers that they're trying to suggest some sort of familiar reward, but rather Jagex's for their inability to mention what type of reward they'd like to implement and leaving it for us to create assumptions like we are now.


I dunno, I'd still consider it the fault of the PKers as numerous people have suggested the supplies being dropped instead of statuettes thing, but as I said, PKers throw it back in your face and are set in their ways, refusing to budge from statuettes, even when you remind them that if they keep lobbying for statuettes, they're gonna end up with nothing.

17-Jul-2014 18:32:28

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It's good to hear that at least some of you are sensible, but any sort of system that creates GP from no where is bad to me, sorry. I like the idea of dropping actual supplies, that seems like the middle ground between what PKers want and what the rest of the community wants (No additional incentives), but after suggesting that to multiple PKers, all they do is come up with some ridiculous insult and state that 'statuettes are NEEDED' and that 'PKers are what make the game thrive' (Not true, they're the smallest section of the playerbase according to the poll last year).


I dunno, I'd still consider it the fault of the PKers as numerous people have suggested the supplies being dropped instead of statuettes thing, but as I said, PKers throw it back in your face and are set in their ways, refusing to budge from statuettes, even when you remind them that if they keep lobbying for statuettes, they're gonna end up with nothing.


You're lumping all PKers in for what few have said. You know the idea for supplies to be dropped was posted ages ago on Zy by multiple PKers? It's not like PKers are incapable of thinking up good rewards.

Some are saying they want statuettes because that's the way they understand BH worked last time around. Of course it won't happen the same exact way a second time, but their opinions shouldn't be discounted. It means they want real rewards for their effort in PKing unlike what we're getting now. Pots alone might cost more than what you PK in deep wild nowadays for example. Things like the looting bag were suggested by us previously and they were implemented properly, which is why I'm perplexed as to why they don't come to us again and ask when we're always willing to give great advice.

Statuettes will probably not be added, don't worry.

17-Jul-2014 18:37:44

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If someone is teleporting, it should take away from the profit of that kill, like with rune cost. And tele porting CLOSE to the target can get OP of finding them. I think that halfway or a random point (slightly random distance as well as coordinates) not that far, but a set amount (not based on your location), or something like that would be nice but not all the way.

17-Jul-2014 18:47:19

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It's good to hear that at least some of you are sensible, but any sort of system that creates GP from no where is bad to me, sorry. I like the idea of dropping actual supplies, that seems like the middle ground between what PKers want and what the rest of the community wants (No additional incentives), but after suggesting that to multiple PKers, all they do is come up with some ridiculous insult and state that 'statuettes are NEEDED' and that 'PKers are what make the game thrive' (Not true, they're the smallest section of the playerbase according to the poll last year).


How self-centered are you? Just because You don't enjoy pking does not mean others can't enjoy pking. but in order to enjoy pking there has to be some sort of profit that comes out of it, no1 likes losing money. Just because the PvM community is bigger than the Pking community does not mean that PvM community should be the one deciding what the PK community can and can't do ... how would you like it if we switched roles and the PKing community chose what PvM/Skilling update you would be getting and if they only cared about themselves without seeing the bigger picture. PKing is an important part of Runescape and as been a big part since the beginning. if the pking community dies because of shtty pking updates chosen by the PvM/Skilling community, Runescape is going to lose a big part of it's diversity**

**;Dr; Just because you don't enjoy PKing does not mean others can't like it and make profit from it just like you make profit doing PvM or skilling

Seeing as how alot of PvMers/skillers, like yourself, act right now towards BH, I'd like to have PKer's vote no on the artisan skill poll ... PKer's are not the target crowd for the artisan update / similar to PvM'ers/skillers are not the target crowd for the BH update but we, the PK community, can also do what we want with our vote on the artisan poll

17-Jul-2014 19:11:46 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2014 19:19:30 by 1uz 6 speed

Rawrylol

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How self-centered are you? Just because You don't enjoy pking does not mean others can't enjoy pking. but in order to enjoy pking there has to be some sort of profit that comes out of it, no1 likes losing money. Just because the PvM community is bigger than the Pking community does not mean that PvM community should be the one deciding what the PK community can and can't do ... how would you like it if we switched roles and the PKing community chose what PvM/Skilling update you would be getting and if they only cared about themselves without seeing the bigger picture. PKing is an important part of Runescape and as been a big part since the beginning. if the pking community dies because of shtty pking updates chosen by the PvM/Skilling community, Runescape is going to lose a big part of it's diversity**

**;Dr; Just because you don't enjoy PKing does not mean others can't like it and make profit from it just like you make profit doing PvM or skilling


Actually, that's the whole point of the voting system. Each person votes based on their own opinions. In my opinion, the negative aspects that could possibly come with BH are enough to make me vote against it. As I said, I was originally going to vote in favour of it, even though I have no intention of ever using it, I don't see how that's self centred at all.

How self centred is it of you to expect it to pass just so that PKers can make some quick money? Again as I already said, PKers are the smallest section of the community. Question 4 from the poll 'Old School: About You!' has PKers making up 29% of the community, PvMers at 40% of the community and Skillers/Questers (Basically one and the same, after all you have to skill to quest) making up 20%/11% for a combined 31%. Therefore YOU are the self centred one by demanding something to pass that could harm the rest of the community.

But I'm not gonna sit here and accuse you like that, that's what the poll is for :)

17-Jul-2014 19:20:25

Tu pray

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wow, ADD CRATERS NOT "BH WORLDS" what kind of un-oldschool-type-ofcrap is that?

I CAME TO WRITE SOME IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR YOU, NOT TO RAGE, SO HERE IT GOES:

ATTN: Jagex/Fellow Oldschool Runescape Players

It is in my humble but well-informed opinion that whenever something is added into this game, (or any other game/or anywhere at all for that matter) which requires a significant ammount of "Time wasting" (spending 10 minutes just waiting or afking in the wild...JUST TO GET TARGET! wow!) , THE EFFECT IS ALWAYS THE SAME = NEGATIVE!

17-Jul-2014 19:22:30

Tu pray

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ADD CRATERS! 2 WORLDS FOR CRATERS, NO PVP WORLDS!


PVP WORLDS is a really really failed idea, and what I mean by failed is that within an extremely relatively short ammount of time there will be absolutely way less activity in these worlds than YOU(THE MAKERS) ever would have thought. DO RIGHT and do not listen to people who scream at the opportunity for "bh worlds", INSTEAD, PLEASE LOOK at history, because whatever you like it or not, HISTORY ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF


add craters not bh worlds

craters will never ever fail, if anything, by adding craters (What are craters? whats the difference? you may ask yourself, well to me it is very simple. CRATERS = real style runescape, real style runescape PLAYER KILLING, Player slaying, and most importantly, PLAYER LOOTING!) YOU might actually ensure the long lived success of runescape because I know for a fact that many players who have quit due to lack of pking AKA boredom would be back in a flash. PLEASE PLEASE CRATERS CRATERS

17-Jul-2014 19:26:05

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