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Numair 2
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Numair 2

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First off Jagex, I just want to say that I'm really sorry you are receiving so much hate over this update.
It seems almost certain that BH is not going to pass as it is now. I personally would love to see BH implemented. What people I think fail to realize is that somethings don't need to be perfect when implemented. Somethings are better to just get out and then tweak based of players feedback as they play it... Similar to RS3's beta. It's pretty tricky to make the perfect update without anyone trying it out first, especially over such a hot topic as pking and BH.

Essentially the point of this, is to inquire into what's your plans now for BH. Are you going to drop it after all this work? Or are you going to try to tweak poll? Maybe a question like, "what would we have to change so you would vote yes for BH?". :)
Obviously IDK what the solution is, but I really don't want to see BH scrapped because of some negative, uneducated, narrow-minded, people.

18-Jul-2014 04:45:49

SatanicMuffn
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First off Jagex, I just want to say that I'm really sorry you are receiving so much hate over this update.
It seems almost certain that BH is not going to pass as it is now. I personally would love to see BH implemented. What people I think fail to realize is that somethings don't need to be perfect when implemented. Somethings are better to just get out and then tweak based of players feedback as they play it... Similar to RS3's beta. It's pretty tricky to make the perfect update without anyone trying it out first, especially over such a hot topic as pking and BH.

Essentially the point of this, is to inquire into what's your plans now for BH. Are you going to drop it after all this work? Or are you going to try to tweak poll? Maybe a question like, "what would we have to change so you would vote yes for BH?". :)
Obviously IDK what the solution is, but I really don't want to see BH scrapped because of some negative, uneducated, narrow-minded, people.

+1 A lot of people are saying they will quit if the poll doesn't pass with extra incentives, others want bounty hunter craters. Current popular wilderness pking worlds should have BH added to them, I think. Too many people are stuck on the past, and some say we should knowingly repeat the same mistakes, others say we should replicate the past. I think we should do something different with the target system. It should be about the hunt, and spending points earner in the activity (if rewards are balanced). I think it should be going on across all of the wilderness, not secluded to special worlds, or that a dangerous wildy should be removed so you can only pk in special worlds (as some have proposed). Just implement a target system and offer some rewards to those who have earned them through playing the activity (gotta say, I like my own suggestion, and I realise that's a clear bias, but someone has yet to point out a significant flaw).

18-Jul-2014 05:05:01

SatanicMuffn
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Thanks for being reasonable. I haven't given a specific number that the stats should increase, it's really up the Jagex to determine what some reasonable bonuses should be. I believe that the concept (maybe it would work differently in game, but the concept itself) is fair. It's a pretty good incentive to earn BH points as it can be used as a special armour to use to maximize your special attacks, and if your opponent so chooses, they can risk dying and take advantage of your lower defensive stats and kill you. Perhaps there is a better ratio than 3:2 in terms of how your stats change, maybe the defensive stats should be further lowered, perhaps a ratio of 9:4 or 9:5 (closer to 5:4) would be better. As a concept I think that it could compensate for the lack of current incentives. Whether or not my idea would work well in practice is irrelevant as it would

The problem with that is that you could flick gear. There's actually no downside in having a weapon that gives negative bonuses if you can weild it in the tick that your attack turn comes. Same goes for defensive gear. It works much like pray flicking.

The Old School Runescape team is a good one. I'm sure that between themselves they can come up with a pretty good fix that makes it so that it can't be abused like that. They've made similar fixes so that things cannot be so easily abused.

Yeah NMZ...

Don't just make a vague comment about it, it could make a lot of money for a short day or two per hour of play, but that's been solved. They could make it so that you can't un-equip and re-equip it in a certain number of ticks.

18-Jul-2014 05:07:40

SatanicMuffn
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@Awful Luck

With the G.E. in the game, it allowed for a lot of price manipulation as cash stacks grew, people could buy out items and sell them for higher prices. This just meant that the players that already had the money were making all the money. It makes it even harder for skillers to make a lot of money. Inflation causes GP to be worth less, and I don't like that. I don't want 20m to buy me 500 sharks. I want 20m to buy me some good items. As more players join the game more money will enter the game to compensate for these new players.

We don't need statuettes, you can already make a significant amount of money through pking DH or even rune, or a high risk fight. You don't need to rely on luck to get you that extra money. Pkers are capable of earning their cash through PVM or skilling. Feel free to read my earlier posts to see my alternatives to statuettes and other tradables. I also had a more thorough couple of posts on Wednesday's dev. blog.

18-Jul-2014 05:13:25

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I think that the next revision of the BH blog should be more specific on aquiring the targets. I don't really like the idea of getting targets 10 levels above mine. I'm OK with it as long as I can somehow acquire a new target with ease (ie. not waiting 10 minutes). How this would be done is up to the programmers. In conclusion, a +\- 10 level differential is not going to fly.

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TomNumbers
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It seems that a lot of people are actually in favour of some form of BH, but that the current form is not what we want. To be honest, there should be a poll about certain aspects for BH first and then polled whether it should be implemented or not.

Also, I still think some form of incentive to kill a target is necessary, be it brawlers or some other (preferably untradable) reward that doesn't cause massive inflation.

18-Jul-2014 10:20:04

OA
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If BH gets another shot at a poll after this, so should Artisan.

Na because jagex knows they ignored EVERYONES feedback in regards to bh, hell it isn't even bh, its just pvp worlds with a target system with nothing else on top of that. Nothing differentiates it from the actual wildy or pvp worlds and will be dead content on release whereas; artisan has taken on feedback and constant reformation.

We kept saying, add the poll options for ep/statuettes/pvp armour (and explain to non-pkers that it really isn't that overpowered, or that the drop rate will be made much harder than what it was on rs2) etc etc. So many ways jagex could've gone about it and didn't.

18-Jul-2014 11:40:25

Ole Johann
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Ole Johann

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you shouldnt just lose non tradeables.. getting torso and fire capes back is stupid we should be able to run back and grab them just like we can now

Stick to wildy then. Losing untradeables is one of the only good things about this suggestion.

18-Jul-2014 12:35:42

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