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Reminiscon

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Reducing it to 70%? NO, either 80% or it remains the same.

What's to stop you from saying 65% a year later? 60% after that? And then 50%?

This is an outrage and quite frankly worthy of a Falador riot, Old School style.

Why do you insist on fixing what isn't broken... 67k players online... we have a winning system. You have DOOMED yourselves, AGAIN.


TRAITORS. Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

29-Jan-2017 21:32:37 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2017 21:52:11 by Reminiscon

Reminiscon

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WayTooPosted said :
The reason they are doing two 2200+ worlds is because they will do one for North America and one for Europe.

I think lowering the poll success to 70% is a great idea.Who says that 75% is the correct number, why not 80%, why not 2/3 majority? 70% is a good compromise between 2/3 and 3/4 majority (which is still a majority).

Using your 5% logic, why kill content that 70% (a majority) of players want when only an additional 5% prevented it?

Stop trying to rationalize.

I voted for an old version of RuneScape to be dictated by an overwhelming majority of 75% and anything less than that is APPALLING.

This is a second betrayal of us 04-07 players who wanted to preserve our game. We are prepared to quit. Again. And you can say goodbye to that 67k players online, mark my words. All it takes is for some horrible update to pass and 20% of us could be gone.

And this time we will NEVER come back, NEVER restart ever again.

Remember Wildy and Free Trade removal followed by a slow and painful death. #NeverAgain. Long live the True RuneScape. Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

29-Jan-2017 21:39:33 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2017 21:50:20 by Reminiscon

Haru
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Haru

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Um, first off we gotta make something clear.. Not passing your 75% it means there is a problem with the update and some people dislikes it which you guys should do something to make it go through 75% not by reducing the pass to 70% then 60%..

We need a strong majority not a weak majority. Doesn't mean your total level is 2000+ you should have more power in votes. Because other people will also reach 2000+ one day or maybe it will affect them in the near future. We already have a skip button for those who doesn't want to answer or thinks it doesn't affect them.

AND PLEASE do not start updating things without polling because you guys are KNOWN for bad decisions maybe that's why EoC happened.

If JMODS you guys are trying to make the Pass Rate lower because you guys failed to pass the Elder whatever high tier armour, this is pretty sad, I can feel you guys trying to force update something by polling it multiple times which is definitely not what WE want and it's not looking good for the future of this game.

And of course if we end up by lowering the poll pass rate to 70% by polling it, I'm fine with it since it's a decision made by US not only some SKILLING NERDS and Jmods trying to force updates.
You must be bored spending your time clicking on this spoiler lul. :P

30-Jan-2017 06:50:20 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2017 06:51:17 by Haru

Anger Alt
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Lowering the threshold is a bad idea, it should be raised to 80%. Why not poll this instead of repolling an identical change to the threshold that already failed in the past?

Too many updates are entering the game as it is already, leaving Jagex less time to focus on the real underlying issues present in the game (ones which are massively popular, like official client improvements or general QOL changes) due to constantly working on poll content.

The only way I could support a threshold reduction is if Jagex strictly prioritised dev work and changes based upon the Yes vote %. If it receives 99% it's going to be top priority for Jagex, at 70% it's placed at the bottom of the long list of changes desired by the community.

In my opinion, the Old School way would be to try and maintain the original version of the game as best as possible, while still adding some updates. This goes against that completely.

30-Jan-2017 12:19:20 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2017 12:23:04 by Anger Alt

WayTooPosted

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Reminiscon said :
WayTooPosted said :
The reason they are doing two 2200+ worlds is because they will do one for North America and one for Europe.

I think lowering the poll success to 70% is a great idea.Who says that 75% is the correct number, why not 80%, why not 2/3 majority? 70% is a good compromise between 2/3 and 3/4 majority (which is still a majority).

Using your 5% logic, why kill content that 70% (a majority) of players want when only an additional 5% prevented it?

Stop trying to rationalize.

I voted for an old version of RuneScape to be dictated by an overwhelming majority of 75% and anything less than that is APPALLING.

This is a second betrayal of us 04-07 players who wanted to preserve our game. We are prepared to quit. Again. And you can say goodbye to that 67k players online, mark my words. All it takes is for some horrible update to pass and 20% of us could be gone.

And this time we will NEVER come back, NEVER restart ever again.

Remember Wildy and Free Trade removal followed by a slow and painful death. #NeverAgain. Long live the True RuneScape.

We are prepared to quit? Please do, the community would be better off without constant flaming my gosh grow up. Just because you CAPITALIZE defining words doesn't make your argument any stronger, it actually does the opposite. And as for the 04-07 players, I am one of them. I remember the release of construction, I thought the removal of free trade was a great thing (I love the GE), and I remember the anger I felt when EOC did a blatant copy of WoW and Old School players were left with no alternative for their hard-worked character.

Games need change to stay alive. The mods do their best to release new content into the game that keeps the flavor of Old School alive. Please try to understand that if 70% of people want something in the game, preventing that is not a good structure.

31-Jan-2017 19:22:23

Angel2D4

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WayTooPosted said :



Games need change to stay alive.

EOC kept it alive... that's why we're all here... NOT (if not for the epic failure eoc ended up, this old game wouldn't even be here!).

Stop making the false claim that games "need" change to stay alive when CLEARLY not all change is good or good for the game. AND, this old game has constant changes WITH a 75% pass rate requirement.

75% has kept this old game "alive" just fine and rocking that boat is not a good idea for the players OR the game... and last I checked... it's FAILING the poll yet again. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

31-Jan-2017 23:05:14

Me No Brains

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Isn't old school supposed to be controlled by players? (or whatever like that)

it is so obvious Jmods wants control osrs. dragon claws failed on first poll. well Jmods wants then on osrs so they polled til they pass. not sure if that's good thing for Jmods.

Leave that 75% on passing things. hopefully stuffs shouldn't be repolled just because Jmods wants them in osrs.

And for the Question #2 hope that passes.

Well yall Jmods stop trying to take control over osrs. leave it be with players

31-Jan-2017 23:38:00 - Last edited on 31-Jan-2017 23:39:17 by Me No Brains

Geroko

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Gained some faith in the community back after seeing these questions fail. Doubt it matters much though, jagex has already show that they have no problem making massive game changing updates without player approval over the last month

01-Feb-2017 01:14:07

Wolfi
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It should be raised to 80% and nothing but imminently required action (Like the rat pits dupe) should be through without action.

With all respect towards the J-mods that put their hearts in the development of OSRS I can't say I have much faith in jagex their capabilities to get ideas in development. I'll be bloody honest, look at raids. Many people weren't in favour of raids, and practically it got re-polled until enough passed. The content itself is if you ask me mediocre at best, and I don't bother at it too much. The time spend to make raids could have been used to make other content in Zeah to make Zeah more "alive". Right now it's pretty dead content and it feels far from old school. (I love the catacombs though.)

In my opinion, the community is far more aware what is good for the game than Jagex, and I understand fully Jagex want to have control over the game they update, but they don't see as well as the community what is good and what is bad.

Jagex should stick with that they are good at, and that is making the content. Not deciding if their ideas should be actually developed, because there is a reason OSRS has a larger growing and total player count than RS3.

01-Feb-2017 14:09:42

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