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Sleepysleuth

Sleepysleuth

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How did you all come up with this decision? Because let me throw some knowledge at your for a second:

Melee weapons and their balls high hits:
-DDS (costs like 20k) ---> can hit 40-40 with 25% spec in high defense gear
-AGS (appropriately costs 32m or something) ---> can hit 50-60 no spec and like mid 80's with spec WITHOUT VOID and the accuracy is like my biceps - awesome.
-Tent Whip ---> hits 41s regular hit with super shit gear, poisons you, and that's not even 99 strength required to do that. You need d boots, b gloves, and zerker helm to hit that.
-Any Godsword (roughly 2-3m) ---> regular hit can be 50-60
-Granite Maul (costs? nothing) ---> can 1 hit you with the specs at any level, with any gear.
-Dharok ---> Can 1 hit you and is tanky
-Blessed Sara ---> accurate a'f, hits 40s and is fast
-Hasta ---> like really? just a whip with defensive stats

Okay that was fun. Let's examine range and mage weapons.

Range:
-Ballista ---> moderately accurate when coupled with void but then you have 0 defense bonus. Costs 2.9k per shot. Spec costs 65% of your energy.
-Armadyl Crossbow ---> not really much better than rune crossbow. Spec costs 40% and really isn't great. Would be something if spec increased accuracy tremendously too. No one uses as a KO weapon. Okay for DPS
-Dark Bow ---> Viable range ko weapon, but at 99 range and void, you're more likely to hit the minimum (8-8) than you are all other hits combined. Making it garbage at high levels.
-Dragonfire Bolts ---> Meet antifire.
-Blowpipe or Knives or Darts or Magic Shortbow ---> LOL what level 80+ koes someone with one of these specs or just regular hits? Pures, maybe...

Magic:
-TSOTD ---> perfect. don't fuck with it please, Jagex.
-Barrage ---> hits hard and has decent accuracy. Accuracy could be buffed a little. But no KO potential really.

And that's it basically. Meleers have a plethora of KO options. Rangers and Magers just are support or brids to a melee KO.

02-Nov-2016 21:05:21

RancidX

RancidX

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This is honestly one of the dumbest moves in a long line of dumb moves you guys make on the regular. I really wish i could of seen how the genius who came up with this pitched it to rest of the team.


Thing is basically useless now. WHY IN GODS NAME WOULD YOU NERF THE ACCURACY TOO!?

There has been so many viable ways to fix it at lower combats that have been pitched over the last 2 weeks, The classic jagex laziest and easiest way is the right way took the helm on this one though.



The Heavy Ballista was intended to compete alongside the AGS. However, with it's requirements and price being lower , especially when paired with Void Range, it was simply too strong.

The bolded part absolutely kills me, Why does the price influence how powerful it should be.... I didn't set the drop rate on pieces, you did. I'd rather pay 35m for it and it not be a piece of shit than let that broken ass logic dictate how weak it is now.

If that stupidity is what you're balancing weapons by now, let's get a nerf on the Gmaul it's only 30k and only requires 50 attack.

02-Nov-2016 23:50:17 - Last edited on 03-Nov-2016 00:01:50 by RancidX

Mr-Wildstar

Mr-Wildstar

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Even tho I did say the Heavy ballista is useless now. I just thought of a new idea for it.

For the now nerfed Ballista. Keep the power nerf. But increases the Accuracy of the heavy Ballista from +100 to +135 or +140. This way. It can hit a little bit more often. Just would be a bit less damaging on each hit. Or increase the attack speed to that of a long sword speed. (Tho just the accuracy buff would be a better choice.)

Maybe also give the weapon some defense bonuses like plus 15 or 20 to all defenses but magic and stab. (only like plus 5 to 10 on that one.) And change the requirement to use the weapon is 80 or 85 ranged and 50 or 60 defence. That way, there will be less void Heavy ballista pkers on the lower lvl end.

Maybe that would still allow the Heavy Ballista to be useful. and Not what it is as of this nerf.

03-Nov-2016 03:37:39

Ferocire

Ferocire

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Two Letters said :
stop crying about 2k16 weapon getting nerfed ur playing 07 yet u wanna prod some op new shit. qq

I hope you don't use the AGS. If so, then you prod some OP crap as well.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

03-Nov-2016 21:12:24

RancidX

RancidX

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This thing better be fixed this week, such gross incompetence is getting quite old. Everyone safes this thing like it's going to 1 hit ko their 99 hp wearing 250+ defence bonus meanwhile i get shit on by every ags to gmaul combo in my 120 void defence that i HAVE to wear to make this thing even laughably viable. What a joke.

08-Nov-2016 19:21:31 - Last edited on 08-Nov-2016 19:23:52 by RancidX

John Jak

John Jak

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Hello!

When are we going to also discuss GE modifications? It is really frustrating when people try to scam with the infamous 'Steel (G)' set that has a WRONG price in GE, not to mention other disadvantages, like you have to trial and error many priced until you are able to buy anything.

So, my question was, when could we poll some GE modifications like being able to see the current offers and their price on order to provide more stability to the system?

09-Nov-2016 11:36:17

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