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Moist Elax
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People seem to be neglecting the fact that offline trading will almost certainly harm the economy as we know it. It's simple supply and demand. When offers remain 24/7, you will not have enough demand to keep competition between prices at a minimum. Turning any sort of profit on production skills such as Smithing and Crafting will be impossible. Mat K, I think you need to explore the potential consequences of each feature, so that people might see the unhealthy impacts they could have on the game, because a lot of people seem to be split between preserving the game's old school integrity and personal benefits. It would be a good idea to help people realize what consequences the different options are likely to have.


You are correct my friend! See my post, I feel like being "instantly satisfied" is what people want, not what is better for them. McDonalds is a perfect example, fast, "easy", and simple. Why is almost a third of the world obese? Same idea. Correct in that Smithing and Crafting will die... look at my name. I thrive to smith.


You also are missing another part in why the world would be obese. Even though mcdonalds is fast and easy, it is up to the buyer in what they buy based off their lifestyle. If they don't educate themseleves in health and HOW you actually lose or gain weight *cough* calories in and calories out* then of cousre you can gain unwanted weight. Health is a seperate topic because some people eat it everyday to low budget and are perfectly fine and have great physiques. Everything is based on the PLAYER. You may see people putting up the prices higher but it's YOUR choice to pay it just LIKE THE SYSTEM NOW. The problem with now is our community is split with zyb and others on just world 1 and we should have it where 100% can see prices IN GAME. I also think some people have how the house works very wrong.....

26-May-2014 21:05:57

Moist Elax
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We don't want this becoming EOC again. Stop making these lame updates. It will be impossible to merc* efficiently with this update. For the people who want this update, go back to RS3.


Please stop.....ever since the GWD poll these post about becoming eoc makes no sense......just explain how it will become eoc if free trade and wildy is here.......and there is no ge with set prices.....and the combat isnt switch to abilities?

26-May-2014 21:07:47

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you also fail to realize the reverse effect. If someone owns 75% of the rune scimmies up and have to use other accounts in order to buy them, then the supply is very high vs the demand which would make them crash but this cannot happen if there are no set prices to go off vs a player base made price. It's about supply and demand but also with the difficulty of obtaining the item. Rune scimmies are constantly traded 24/7 because of pking, training, pures, etc so there will always be a set demand for them and prices will not go up that much considering how easy it is for some to get them through drops.



Bad item example. Point still is that if you create a way for people to manipulate item prices by allowing fluid non confirmed trades. The point of crash is not exactly there. It will crash at some point when, who knows? The seller might match demand with his supply at a controlled rate, this raising prices.
Der Bers does it with the supply of the world diamonds. Just look to them for example. Coal, or other more "resource based" items are better examples. Things used in the creation of items. Coal, runes, gems, logs, raw food, all were manipulated, and "pumped and dumped" so to speak when the ge started out. Hell, most items were attempting to be pumped and dumped, but resources that are lower in cost, and that are essential to most skills (ores, herbs, etc) are those most easily manipulated. Player to player trading is key, or just create a 25% flat tax on ALL transactions done through the "automated trade system". That way profits can still be made in the P2P markets, where negotiation also helps profiteers. Look at "net neutrality" do you really want the rich and powerful in runescape(which includes large amounts of bots/gold farmers) to have an instantaneous dump for their resources where they can crash prices/manipulate prices more effectively? Everyone is look at what good this will do, but not what isn't

26-May-2014 21:22:09

Kaylynne
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I feel like everyone is missing the point of all of this, this was supposed to be the old school version of Runescape dated back in 2007, but its becoming more like Current RS without EOC... Shouting to buy or sell items on major trade worlds was the thriving point of the economy in 2007...

26-May-2014 21:26:12

yoqurt
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This is a pointless trade solution. This is exactly what **** does. The only way I would support this is if they made it more convenient than going on **** or if it offered something more than ****.


Yes, exactly. It offers an alternative while keeping many merchanting methods possible. If automated trading was introduced, the time required to make methods such as buying key halves, charging jewelry, collecting odd items, etc, would be abolished. This fixes the difficulty of trading while not changing a whole lot.


Once again, thanks OldSchool team. I appreciate this.

26-May-2014 21:27:02 - Last edited on 26-May-2014 21:29:38 by yoqurt

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