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Lewis Shoot
Oct Member 2005

Lewis Shoot

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Due to the character limit I have split my reply into two posts, one for the items I really like and one for the items I don't with a conclusion.

Ancestral Robes
These are quite nice, what I expected from the original Kodai robe design. I would suggest taking their defence down a little bit more just to make sure they don't devalue Ahrims too much but everything else is nice.

Twisted Bow
This has an incredibly interesting effect. I feel more items in game should be looking at implementing a damage scale so they only work in niche situations. This means we can have multiple high value items as opposed to single all purpose sets we've seen in the past.

Twisted Buckler
Again this is interesting. I'd suggest lowering the melee defence to the mid teens because range is meant to be weaker against range however it is a good upgrade to the Odium ward

Dinhs Bulwark
This is risky, we've not seen anything like it before. I feel that it could be an incredibly good idea, making sure the player is locked into a defensive mode and cannot do much damage. That being said we need to be ready to drop this item if it doesn't work well.

Dragon Hunter Crossbow
Another great niche item. Well balanced between rune and armadyl crossbows and with a great effect. RIP Forums :(
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29-Oct-2016 14:55:41 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2016 14:56:25 by Lewis Shoot

Lewis Shoot
Oct Member 2005

Lewis Shoot

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Dragon Claws
These are too powerful.
People make a case that an AGS is more powerful hower
- An AGS requires 75 attack which is much more substantial than the 60 attack requirement dragon claws have
- An AGS is much less accurate, people always complained about the power of a dragon claw KO but no one complains about the AGS KO because it's much rarer
- Just because we have 1 overpowered item in game doesn't mean we should just keep adding more. 1 punch in the face is not equivalent to 3 punches in the face, in fact I'd argue we should change the special attack cost of an AGS like we've seen with the BGS in the past.

How about abyssal claws? well having that 70 attack requirement is a big improvement but I feel they just aren't worth the bother.

Elder Armour/Kodai Robes/Twisted Armour
Just leave these ideas in the grave. They've failed twice already and I really think a low price tag to use them won't change much. They are incredibly powerful and out of the two things I like about them one is now redundant.
- Twisted armour introducing a range strength bonus was a nice idea, I would like to see how a piece of armour would work with that
- I liked how Kodai was going to be a more offensive version of Ahrims, however Ancestral robes have taken over that

Conclusion
I feel this developer blog showcases both the best and worse ideas. With the items I like being fairly balanced due to good stats, requirements and effects that make them useful in niche situations and the items I dislike being too general purpose and too powerful. I imagine they would all have a high price, the niche items might be slightly lower priced however they will retain that for much longer, making them more valuable. RIP Forums :(
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29-Oct-2016 14:56:01 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2016 14:56:35 by Lewis Shoot

Malzbier

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Lewis shoot says
d claws
These are too powerful.
People make a case that an AGS is more powerful hower
- An AGS requires 75 attack which is much more substantial than the 60 attack requirement dragon claws have
- An AGS is much less accurate, people always complained about the power of a dragon claw KO but no one complains about the AGS KO because it's much rarer
- Just because we have 1 overpowered item in game doesn't mean we should just keep adding more. 1 punch in the face is not equivalent to 3 punches in the face, in fact I'd argue we should change the special attack cost of an AGS like we've seen with the BGS in the past.



Dude d claws are not so OP you have the phoenix neck you know and you can easy safe this shark brew karambwan dude easy safe i hop you understand this for the pker

29-Oct-2016 15:14:16 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2016 15:18:24 by Malzbier

Hyper Craft

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YES TO ALL.

My only advice is DO NOT make all these rewards extremely difficult to obtain, otherwise they will all be worth over 100+ mil gold, which many won't be able to afford and use, plus at that rate they will just become staking / merching items instead of regularly used items.

For instance, lets not make ancestral robes ridiculously hard to get. They should be on a drop rate par with bandos and armadyl armor, as that is what they are designed to align with. Makes no sense to care about ahrims price in this regard due to the fact the barrows melee armor and karils does just fine competing with bandos and arma in the marketplace.

In conclusion, I say make the items you receive in raids difficult, but not impossible to obtain, with some being more difficult then others obviously.

Thank you for the reworking of the Raid Rewards! Much better!

29-Oct-2016 15:22:36 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2016 15:28:44 by Hyper Craft

Michael OSRS

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I rarely take effort to post something, but maybe this actually will be read.

You guys do anything but respecting the outcome of polls. You simply repoll till it gets in.

A lack of creativity and originality to come up with ideas.


There has been put way too much new content into the game the past 6 months. Way too quickly.

Over time skills got easier again, weapons OP, healing OP....

Zulrah and Zeah are jokes. Zulrah killed the economy and made so many accounts stacked.

Zeah feels nothing but OSRS.

Get your things together.

~04 player

29-Oct-2016 16:17:37

Extractn

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Still not keen on the idea of twisted/kodai/elder, even if it's degradable. I get that it's from a raid but it's BIS by a huuuuuuuge margin.

Dragon claws... ehh

The rest sounds rad. The Bulwark sounds particularly interesting and as a tank weapon/shield, definitely something that OSRS needs

That said I think the dragon hunter crossbow should be dropped in terms of accuracy given that it's only -5 to the armadyl crossbow. +90 to +92 sounds fine, especially when its given function is as an anti-dragon weapon and +10% accuracy/damage. I guess we'd need to see how it compares in terms of dps to acb

29-Oct-2016 16:19:28

TBAC
Nov Member 2014

TBAC

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D CLAWS - YES
TWISTED BOW -Yes but PLEASE PLEASE make it look like a semi normal looking bow. I understand it is 'twisted' but please don't make it look stupid. The dark bow looks ridiculous and 3a is too expensive and not useful enough to matter! I want my character to be like legolas but of all the ranged items NONE OF THE USEFUL ONES ARE BOWS!!!! THERE IS A BOW ON THE CAPE FOR PETE'S SAKE!!

29-Oct-2016 16:39:43

Legolas
Dec Member 2010

Legolas

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Claws are NOT THAT POWERFUL in our game.

We don't have overloads (or extremes), we don't have turmoil, and we don't have some of the gear they have like the TokAr-Kal or whatever it was.

Max with them is 84 (42-21-11-10) and they can't be 1 ticked, can be eaten during and between specials, and aren't that accurate as a whole compared to the AGS (Yes, I know the special boosts accuracy and overtook it IN THE OLD GAME, not ours).

Chill out. Look at the facts before you cry OP. We've had them in tourny worlds and even then, they weren't crazy.

Yes to claws, Yes to everything from me. Nope.

29-Oct-2016 16:50:03

Litizen

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My god you will literally ADD anything to the game wont you ? ,

This is supposed to be oldschool.

the MAIN reason everyone voted for Oldschool to be re-released was to play the old game with the old content some years ago..... not adding this new junk via polls that ruined the main game for 11year players like myself.


the fact your game is flooded with bots is a clear sign you do not listen to anyone but a fool with a wallet #disappointed@you

29-Oct-2016 16:56:17

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