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2012

Experience

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Taank said :
please sir, go back and read all the comments in this thread...

If last week when they first updated the fairy rings and the options had gone left click takes you to zanaris, 1st right click is custom dial and 2nd right click is last used, would you have been giving feedback to Jagex of "make the left click fairy ring be dial instead"? Honest answer, would it have affected you that much?

Secondly. If today the change had instead been that left click would remain dial, 1st right click would be last dial and a 2nd right click would be Zanaris, would you have been complaining and demanding a poll like you have just now?

29-Sep-2016 22:55:31

Taank

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Angel2D4 said :
Mod Ash said :

They didn't seem to think so last week. While you're doubtless correct that a lot of people will not appreciate this change, a lot of people didn't appreciate last week's either. (In fact this week's change was itself a proposal from that lot of other people.)

Mod Ash said :

(In fact this week's change was itself a proposal from that lot of other people.)

Last weeks CHANGE was the result of a poll.

This change is the result of "a proposal from that lot of other people".

Who is THAT LOT, and why do they get to dictate what this game's devs do to and with the game, WITHOUT A POLL?

this right here is 100%^^^^

and to mod ash, if you have one group of people is saying they like it this way, and another group of people that like it another, is this not clearly one for the poll booths? <-- why was this step completely skipped? is osrs not suppose to be run by polls and not the forums? not many people get on the forums to vote, that's why it was decided to put poll booths IN GAME , so you could get the vote of most everyone not just the few people that take their time to go on the forums because they are not happy with the update, the people that are happy with the update are not going to come on the forums to rant about them, (most of the time, of course some do) therefor you are going to get a one sided opinion. again, all im saying is poll it, let the polls speak for themself

29-Sep-2016 22:58:44

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2012

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Ok, I took your advice and went back and looked at your responses. A few people mentioned the fairy ring change and said they personally preferred it the left click Zanaris way but didn't show any hatred towards the new setup instead. One person thought the right click 'last used' had been replaced altogether but it still exists so they most likely hadn't logged in yet.

There are 3 people that have shown any sort of distaste towards the change. You, Angel and Librarian. Librarian was more annoyed at how something had been done without a poll, from what it seemed like referring to the duel arena update as he referenced John C on the "positive feedback comment". Angel spends her time going around on the forums trying to bash everything any JMod does and has claimed on multiple threads she doesn't even play OSRS anymore. Might as well start taking opinions from people off the street if that's suddenly going to have a massive influence. That leaves you on this thread. You're asking for the "100 or so people who asked Mod Ash for the change" to speak up and ask for the poll. I'm going to ask you to find me 100 people that honestly care that the small change has been made.

Edit: I also know, now that I've referenced Angel in this post I'm most likely going to get some comment from her about demanding I show proof of these allegations about her and how I always tend to assume things so here's this in advance.

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As far as what I personally think of it.. when enough is 'added' to a game, that you don't like.. you find other games to play. I might very well still play the game, if not for things like the grand exchange.

From thread here . Post #2 on the thread.

29-Sep-2016 23:04:15 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2016 23:10:02 by Experience

Taank

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Experience said :
Taank said :
please sir, go back and read all the comments in this thread...

If last week when they first updated the fairy rings and the options had gone left click takes you to zanaris, 1st right click is custom dial and 2nd right click is last used, would you have been giving feedback to Jagex of "make the left click fairy ring be dial instead"? Honest answer, would it have affected you that much?

Secondly. If today the change had instead been that left click would remain dial, 1st right click would be last dial and a 2nd right click would be Zanaris, would you have been complaining and demanding a poll like you have just now?

to your first question, to be completely honest if the update had gone live and the first left click option was.. take you to zanaris, yes i would be on the forums giving my feedback and suggesting in a future QOL poll that they could poll them changing it, i wouldn't get on the forums and demand they change it because it messes up my ''training route''

and to your second question, i'm not sure what your asking me, that is basically how it was before the change was made. what are you saying, if they changed the last 2 options? not including the left click? i'm not sure that would affect anyone. seeing how you would have to right click anyway.

29-Sep-2016 23:09:43 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2016 23:12:11 by Taank

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2012

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Taank said :

and to your second question, i'm not sure what your asking me, that is basically how it was before the change was made. what are you saying, if they changed the last 2 options? not including the left click? i'm not sure that would affect anyone. seeing how you would have to left click anyway.

I'm suggesting if after today's update the options went like such.

Left click: Dial
2nd Option: Last Used
3rd Option (New): Zanaris

If you want to see one of the reasons a Zanaris predialled tele may have needed to stay please see my earlier post in this thread about the Gorak plane. A returning player may come back and expecting Fairy Tale part 2 to be the same sort of quest so they probably wouldn't have need to bring an instant click teleport out leading them to be trapped in the Gorak plane due to their aggressiveness and being unable to dial a code to leave.

29-Sep-2016 23:12:46

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I absolutely don't play runescape (in any of its' iterations) currently. And this thread (ash's comment specifically) is a prime example of one of the reasons WHY I don't play it.

Whether or not I currently play it is entirely beside the point (but of course you NEED it, in order to 'justify' your complaint against me). I currently HAVE membership (take a look over at the forum avatar if you need proof of that) AND opinions on what jagex does and doesn't do.

Funny thing.. I point out something I disagree with (allowing "THAT LOT" to dictate to these devs, what happens to this game) and your only argument is that I don't currently play?

ROFL some argument (and a great way to drive away anybody sitting on this ugly little fence with me). Hey jagex.. you can't have any money from me when this membership expires because.. Experience said so.

LMAO "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

29-Sep-2016 23:25:30

Taank

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[/quote]

I'm suggesting if after today's update the options went like such.

Left click: Dial
2nd Option: Last Used
3rd Option (New): Zanaris

If you want to see one of the reasons a Zanaris predialled tele may have needed to stay please see my earlier post in this thread about the Gorak plane. A returning player may come back and expecting Fairy Tale part 2 to be the same sort of quest so they probably wouldn't have need to bring an instant click teleport out leading them to be trapped in the Gorak plane due to their aggressiveness and being unable to dial a code to leave.[/quote]

i do understand the fact that people wanting to go to zanaris didn't want to have to pull up the dial, find the code for zanaris wait for it to adjust to the code and then click the accept option. i get that and i get the whole stuck somewhere there are aggressive monsters due to not being able to leave before getting hit, going a little off topic here, its the same thing for last man standing, some people couldn't open up the lms shrine interface and buy something before the next attack hit them,closing the interface, same basic thing your talking about with the gorak plane. which i had some suggestions for on the forums which of course where never looked at or mentioned by a mod. ANYWAY back to the topic. i DO agree with you there needed to be a insta-telly on the fairy ring that allowed you to instantly teleport to zanaris allowing you to escape from aggressive monsters. what i don't agree with is that it was made to be the left click option on the fairy ring, ( this is my own personal opinion) i understand this is such a small thing it shouldn't be such a big deal. i just don't like the fact that a group of people on the forums can sway the devs into making updates without consulting the whole of runescape.

29-Sep-2016 23:29:45

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2012

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Angel2D4 said :
Hey jagex.. you can't have any money from me when this membership expires because.. Experience said so.

Please find the part of my post where I state "Angel you should never resubscribe". It doesn't exist so I guess I can give you your own advice you always give me straight back to you. Stop assuming what people are saying.

I also don't need your "membership status" as a reason to justify your complaints because in all honesty I'm pretty sure some people are just sick of reading the "I don't play this game because of JMod X doing Y" on every thread you post. You've essentially just become one of those people that keep saying they've "quit" the game but keep hanging around. Which one is it?

29-Sep-2016 23:32:42 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2016 23:35:05 by Experience

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2012

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Taank said :
i DO agree with you there needed to be a insta-telly on the fairy ring that allowed you to instantly teleport to zanaris allowing you to escape from aggressive monsters. what i don't agree with is that it was made to be the left click option on the fairy ring, ( this is my own personal opinion) i understand this is such a small thing it shouldn't be such a big deal. i just don't like the fact that a group of people on the forums can sway the devs into making updates without consulting the whole of runescape.

Which is the exact point I'm trying to get across. People need to stop bringing polls, this was promised etc into the argument and just state the change you'd have preferred instead. All this random unneeded calling out of groups of people and JMods is the biggest overreaction going and doesn't achieve anything.

I've had my share of disagreements in updates that have been released in the past but I've always just stated the change that should be made. There's no need to bring individual JMods or the entire group for that matter into the firing line over every single change they make.

29-Sep-2016 23:39:04

Taank

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Experience said :
Taank said :
i DO agree with you there needed to be a insta-telly on the fairy ring that allowed you to instantly teleport to zanaris allowing you to escape from aggressive monsters. what i don't agree with is that it was made to be the left click option on the fairy ring, ( this is my own personal opinion) i understand this is such a small thing it shouldn't be such a big deal. i just don't like the fact that a group of people on the forums can sway the devs into making updates without consulting the whole of runescape.

Which is the exact point I'm trying to get across. People need to stop bringing polls, this was promised etc into the argument and just state the change you'd have preferred instead. All this random unneeded calling out of groups of people and JMods is the biggest overreaction going and doesn't achieve anything.

I've had my share of disagreements in updates that have been released in the past but I've always just stated the change that should be made. There's no need to bring individual JMods or the entire group for that matter into the firing line over every single change they make.

hey man i haven't called anyone out, just to be sure i went back and read all my posts none of which was directed towards and one mod or any one person, i have kept it fairly civil, ( other than my general graarador comment lol, which of course i was just joking about) i have mentioned a mods name in previous comments but was simply talking towards them in hopes they would read it and hopefully get the message, not to call them out, i was not rude or mean in any way. no one has been put in a firing line i have just mentioned things that needed to be said to get my point across. and polls are a part of osrs and it needs to stay that way to keep this game great. if updates are made wthout the general consensius of everyone whats the point of polls?

29-Sep-2016 23:50:53 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2016 23:52:56 by Taank

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