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Rell
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Interesting update, good way to deal with players who may be botting.


Ms. Rell, do you realize what you said? It is the same as saying lets put people in prison because they
may
have committed a crime. No proof, just that they may have done something wrong.


I know exactly what I have said. Sorry that the system seems to constantly place you in these worlds, that would be frustrating to say the least. As for you example, people are placed in 'prison' when they are suspected of committing a crime. Until they go before a jury in court, they are basically a 'suspect'. In this case, some actions you are preforming are being picked up by the system, placing you in these worlds. This is a system that can and will be improved on. Until Jagex looks into the 'suspected' player, a decision of bot or not-bot can't be made.

Hopefully your issues with the system will be resolved once Jagex looks into your 'case'. I think this is a great addition, but as with many automated systems, there will always be some innocent players who may be caught. Jagex will check each account out, that is placed there, so the innocent will be filtered by additions to the programme used.

If this system helps to remove players that bot, then I fully support it.

29-Mar-2014 20:11:05

DesertFlower
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I know exactly what I have said. Sorry that the system seems to constantly place you in these worlds, that would be frustrating to say the least. As for you example, people are placed in 'prison' when they are suspected of committing a crime. Until they go before a jury in court, they are basically a 'suspect'. In this case, some actions you are preforming are being picked up by the system, placing you in these worlds. This is a system that can and will be improved on. Until Jagex looks into the 'suspected' player, a decision of bot or not-bot can't be made.

Hopefully your issues with the system will be resolved once Jagex looks into your 'case'. I think this is a great addition, but as with many automated systems, there will always be some innocent players who may be caught. Jagex will check each account out, that is placed there, so the innocent will be filtered by additions to the programme used.

If this system helps to remove players that bot, then I fully support it.


It isn't happening constantly. However, no, that is not how the judicial system is, or not how it is supposed to be. If there is probable cause, and they have some evidence, then and only then, they may go to a judge and get a legal warrant. Then you can be arrested, but, you don't go to prison. The judge will allow you to post bond, and then you go to trial. You are not condemned and imprisoned before you have a trial. You are innocent, until proven guilty, not the other way around. :)

You are also allowed a real human to plead your case, not a computer that spits out canned responses.

It is better to allow 1000 criminals to go free, then imprison one innocent person.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it.


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29-Mar-2014 23:42:58

Rell
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@ Desert Flower, As I said previously, sorry you are having issues with the game, but for the long term health of the game, something does need to be done. I do hope that you have contacted Jagex with your concerns, as they are the only ones who can deal with it.

This doesn't make the system 'wrong'.

30-Mar-2014 00:11:37 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2014 00:12:16 by Rell

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The system is wrong, i've been sent there 2 times in 3 days, and have never botted in my life.

Furthermore, once was during a slayer task, the other time during a CLUE.]

It is highly frustrating and as a player feels like you are being falsely accused of something you did not do.

31-Mar-2014 12:51:49

Coldmarbles
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I agree with DesertFlower. There's pros and cons to the bot worlds. They provide a haven in which the bots can have their own place away from legitimate players who have to compete with them for resources. Yesterday I finished up 99 woodcutting and did some agility for the graceful gear, then decided on going for 99 fishing. Within the first 5 or so lobsters I was disconnected and relogged into this bot world. There were so many people that it was almost insane. Fishing spots were constantly moving and turning into whirlpools, trees going down to stumps almost immediately or turning into ents a majority of the time. It worried me a bit that I was sent to this world because I talk to people almost regularly and don't really do anything that implies that I'm botting. I logged out of the world and went to another world and did a quest really fast, and mid quest it teleported me back into the world. It hasn't happened to me yet today, but there's flaws in the system for sure. There were complaints of people getting banned for "botting" way before this bot world was even constructed that were legitimate players. When legitimate players get teleported, it makes them think, like I do, that we're doomed to getting banned for something we obviously aren't doing. A majority of these bots are low levels with the default look and jibberish names, not people with higher combat and total levels. Also, why not allow bonds to be implemented into 2007 like it is in RS3? As long as there is a demand for gold, and people are willing to play real money for it, there will always be bots.

03-Apr-2014 02:53:56

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Interesting update, good way to deal with players who may be botting.


Ms. Rell, do you realize what you said? It is the same as saying lets put people in prison because they
may
have committed a crime. No proof, just that they may have done something wrong.


youre a ******* fool, the legal system puts innocent people in "jail" to be held until they get there day in court all the time, this system is no different, stop acting like you know mad ****

04-Apr-2014 13:55:16

duf
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Just started playing old school not too long ago.. got put into world 385 and a friend called me a bot. I panicked until I read this entire thread. Thanks for the explanation I guess.

08-Apr-2014 00:21:47

Rememberer

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This sounds like a fantastic idea!
I am fully supporting this. But the transition would have to be very smooth otherwise some bots may be able to pick it up over time.

I can't wait to see this actually implemented into the game.

PS. Will the "spirit world" still manipulate other players? Or will it just show other bots? I think it would be neat if the bot could see other players (maybe even NPC players?) at resources. c:

17-Apr-2014 19:30:33

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