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Paksenarrion

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Sadly, as mentioned in the dev blog we wouldn't be able to fully integrate RS3s anti bot systems without significantly changing the game, and you guys won't want us to do that.

In case this hasn't been discussed yet *only on page 9 as I type this*, what would have to change to OSRS to be able to implement the RS3 bot system? RS3 Main: Queen Noob ; RS3 Ironman: Verrakai ; OSRS Main: Paksenarrion

25-Feb-2014 16:37:54

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25-Feb-2014 16:38:46

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Sadly, as mentioned in the dev blog we wouldn't be able to fully integrate RS3s anti bot systems without significantly changing the game, and you guys won't want us to do that.

In case this hasn't been discussed yet *only on page 9 as I type this*, what would have to change to OSRS to be able to implement the RS3 bot system?

It's difficult to go into too much detail because we don't want to give out too much info, but effectively we are talking about years worth of rewriting the game.

25-Feb-2014 16:44:03

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I have some questions:

Will Nmz afkers be flagged as botters too?
Is there a chance that some1 gets teleported while pking?
Can we also get teleported while pvm'ing?

It should only detect these accounts if they are using bots... so probably not at for PKers. But both other tasks can be combined with bot use. The only problem I see with that is if a legit player is at armadyl and gets instantly hopped worlds because his acc gets flagged or whatever, then he's pretty much instantly dead because your systems messed up

I guess it all comes down to how many mistakes the botwatch system makes, but I think there should be some safe guards at some places just incase.

I very much doubt fighting Armadyl will trigger anything in botwatch.

25-Feb-2014 16:46:18

Elven Fyre

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Why do you assume false bans cant happen and yet produce a post like this that so very clearly shows your accuracy levels arent perfect.

Im trying to help your system become better, there is clearly faults with it. Either with 3gnets changing ip's often or mkeys and consistent rates being flagged as botting (if not those then its a clear bug with your systems).

I dont understand why im being ignored and my post now hidden, im a loyal, legit customer being treated unfairly at this point.

I would gladly sign any agreement to keep info quiet if youd tell me personally what im supposed to of botted and then work with me to fix the bug and ensure it wont happen again.

25-Feb-2014 16:49:03 - Last edited on 25-Feb-2014 16:51:38 by Elven Fyre

Eetsk

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"The only down side this new system has is that some of our more efficient players may find themselves spirited into a new world. However, the transition is very smooth and the worlds look no different to normal worlds so you may not even notice. "

And how does this work with farming ticks? Normally if you don't watch when you log in/out you can lose farming ticks, assuming that will be the case with this "smooth transition" as well? Not too excited about this if that's the case, being some one who farms a lot and tries to be efficient while training other skills.

25-Feb-2014 16:49:55

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I have some questions:

Will Nmz afkers be flagged as botters too?
Is there a chance that some1 gets teleported while pking?
Can we also get teleported while pvm'ing?

It should only detect these accounts if they are using bots... so probably not at for PKers. But both other tasks can be combined with bot use. The only problem I see with that is if a legit player is at armadyl and gets instantly hopped worlds because his acc gets flagged or whatever, then he's pretty much instantly dead because your systems messed up

I guess it all comes down to how many mistakes the botwatch system makes, but I think there should be some safe guards at some places just incase.

I very much doubt fighting Armadyl will trigger anything in botwatch.

But it can be triggered while getting kc because some ppl might afk/bot at orks with guthans.
So if it gets triggered and we don't notice it and go into boss room? :o

I hope it's very easy to differ from real world, so we can hop back immediatly.

25-Feb-2014 16:50:06

Wikiliex014

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Second,
EDIT: doesn't sound like it would work as bots can program themselves to leave that world like a normal player?

They can do that, but then they'll just be sent back again. If a bot wants to spend all it's time hopping worlds...

Wouldnt that change error's in the coding of bots letting them know when they've been sent to another world? They can just set a timer to hop worlds every 15 minutes. And since there's no world timer... it isn't going to be as efficient. And when there are hundreds of these "bots" in this "wordl" .... are you really gonna have mods moderating 100's of players actions to see if they are bots? You could just do that now, cause most places people bots aren't really even that populated...

25-Feb-2014 16:52:11 - Last edited on 25-Feb-2014 16:53:04 by Wikiliex014

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I very much doubt fighting Armadyl will trigger anything in botwatch.
Oh so it's kind of area based already? you rfirst post in the quote made it sound like it would be watching everyone regardless of where you were or what you were doing, so assumed that it thinking you're at a bot armadyl or something is a possibility.

If that's the case then I have no real problems with it, and while I don't think it will work out as well as some people are expecting, I do hope it does.


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Why do you assume false bans cant happen and yet produce a post like this that so very clearly shows your accuracy levels arent perfect. The system does make mistakes, but all accounts flagged are reviewed by actual humans before bans are handed out, so while the system may make mistakes when flagging accounts, there won't be any mistakes when bans are dished out.

25-Feb-2014 16:57:02

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