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Warlock
Jan Member 2005

Warlock

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JustBob said :
The more I play Runescape, the more it becomes a game about economics and ethical problems.

Come on guys, lootshare is a good idea and we can work it out in a way the economy isn't hurt and LS/CS masses aren't a thing. I hate to say this but right now PVMing is dead. There's not even a forum page for PVM. If you want any kind of group for PVM you need a clan. And they're not joking around.

Right now my stats are far from bossing but eventually they will. I have a full time job and I can't just grind out max combat (let alone the GP needed for high tier armor) only to start having FUN .


The game isn't supposed to be a race to the end where you can only have fun at 126 (or 2277) - updates promoting that mentality is the exact problem RS3 has.

Enjoy the journey; it's far more important than the end.

31-Jan-2016 17:09:29

life bad

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I don't think I want lootshare. I played rs3 until invention came out, when I quit for 07. I would do bosses like Vorago and Nex, where nobody uses cs or ls because of how inconvenient it was. We could trust each other for well over the meager 400m wand split, without a problem.

An annoying part of lootshare, is LS crashing. If you were corping on 07 with your friends with FFAS (free for all split, like it is now), and a team walked in all using LS, their damage would be shared and your damage would be per person. Because of this, that team who was originally FFAS would have to turn on LS in order to fight over whose kill is whose. Now, if somebody, even in the original FFAS team who had the world gets a Sigil, especially an Elysian, it would be unfair to split it, as he would lose like 500m LSP for something he would have split outright. This became a huge problem at bosses like Bandos and Nex, and it is something I don't want to see ingame.

Another bad part about LS was how greedy the player base became. If you missed a sigil, you would only do LSK wherever you went, because you only want the drop. LSK removed the team aspect of pvming, where you would simply share it amongst the group, making it every man for himself.

The worst part about LS was scamming. I'm not very proud, but when I was younger I would do Vorago in a 5 man, where 3 of us were lootsharing (maybe CS, but you get the idea). Since this was a time before newsfeed broadcasts, the other two players were absolutely clueless as to our intentions. In 07, I'm not sure if the "Zulralt has recieved Elysian sigil" message would appear to everybody, even if they weren't in the LS group. Imagine you were 4 manning corp, and 2 of them were Lsing and pull a sigil. How would the drop message appear to the other 2?

If it doesn't show up, it would be clear to the 2 players they were being LS'd on. If it does show up, the scammers' damage would still be shared together, giving them the drop.

31-Jan-2016 17:34:47 - Last edited on 31-Jan-2016 17:40:23 by life bad

Bamboleo

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Just Leave it as it is I dont want no percentages!
Keep oldschool runescape oldschool
you have done enough progress as it is who are these people asking for more updates
they can go and play rs3!
What does oldschool runescape mean then anyway?
You have wasted enough of my life ruining rs2 with updates
Leave this game is it is!

And people unite! dont keep silent about this garbage!
I pay to play not to be pushed around with these updates!
WE got RS3 and legacy mode
keep OLDSCHOOL, OLDSCHOOL!

31-Jan-2016 17:36:19

life bad

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Also, NOBODY LIKES SHARDSHARE ON RS3. It's such a horrible update, believe me when I say nobody uses it.





It's only practical use was for buying the billionaire title...

31-Jan-2016 17:46:08 - Last edited on 31-Jan-2016 17:46:39 by life bad

Bamboleo

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I surely I agree with you it just shouldn't be brought in. the current system that we have not is great and nobody is complaining, even though it may work well for people of 1 or 2 crashing a team but it would not save team crashing team and its just a gamble and its unnecessary.
so many worked we have played as it is now and no problem so I truly agree this should be discussed here and now and left for good. we got plenty of content to use for our gaming experience i dont think we need any more, or else just stop pretending we are playing oldschool runescape.

31-Jan-2016 17:51:33

Bamboleo

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Lets see how much jagex really cares about people that play rs. and from my observation any polls that are being brought into the game pass because maybe the people who get to vote cant even read or just trolls of today so really we shouldn't even be able to vote because sheeple play rs too.

31-Jan-2016 17:54:15

TE dgpmvp

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I would be totally up for LS. This will give lower lvls a chance to do some bosses (like bandos) without being constantly crashed by Max lvl 126's. It's not about making the game easier (which it really won't) it's about making it fun. Also, I support LS worlds and non-LS worlds, thus ppl who don't want ls can stick to the FFA worlds.

As far as visible LS points are concerned, I am against this for the same reason's Jagex mentioned in the original post.

I personally would most prefer LS points to NOT DECAY, and for drops to be calculated with ratios of LSP taken into account. As far as damage dealt is concerned, either way would not matter to me.

31-Jan-2016 18:13:01

Kauski

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Why update stuff that is allready workin as intented?

please jagex, keep your eoc garbage at eoc.

There are several reasons to keep the lootin system as it is.

You are forced to socialise with other players to do bossin --> lootshare technically removes this part of the game you just do it with random guys and dumb them after ur done at boss.

theres no real friends if you cant trust them.

Same mistake made WOW with raid finder --> again 0 socialisin just random people who you dont trust and get the boss done without trustin anyone and dumbin everyone after that, in the long run its bäd for everyone and nobody liked that in WOW.

31-Jan-2016 21:13:25 - Last edited on 31-Jan-2016 21:27:03 by Kauski

Packyff
Dec Member 2006

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Hawaiian said :


Coin share *

The item received should be sold for the highest buy offer currently in GE, instead of creating money out of air and distributing it. Would also be nice if there was a collection box at the bank where you would be able to collect your coin share split, instead of it spawning on the ground. People are always flipping the items so the prices will remain fair. This would be the only downfall to using coin share so if you prefer making a few extra 100k-5m depending on what the item is then you can use other methods like loot share and get the item to sell it yourself.


This is brilliant. I don't see anyone coming up with a more common sense solution. 100% support. Should have been how they did it in the first place.

31-Jan-2016 23:11:56

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