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Blitztod
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Good Blog, cleared up a few things,
I will be voting yes on sailing
, For everyone wanting dung and summoning, this is "Oldschool Runescape", not RS3.

Props to the Oldschool team for not giving into the crybabies and explaining to them why Dung and Summoning will not be coming to OSRS, Keep up the good work. Me and so many others want to see
OldSchool stay unique
and not turned into RS3, that's the reason why we play OSRS, please keep it that way, otherwise there's no point.

12-Aug-2015 19:12:02

killedman

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Angel2D4 said :

Block me baby! Hell, lets go as far as to create a world or 2 where NO UPDATES HAPPEN and block those players (the ones that play on the no update worlds) from voting at all.

I'd support that. In a New York minute.

Those worlds already exist. It's called Runescape Classic.

Oldschool Runescape is not about "no updates". It is about starting with the 2007 base, and taking the game into an entirely new direction than RS3. Without progress the game would die.

God Wars Dungeon, Rooftop Agility, Grand Exchange - how long do you think oldschool would have maintained these huge player numbers without releasing such updates? It would stagnate and eventually dry up, like Runescape Classic.
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12-Aug-2015 19:12:18

Angel2D4

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killedman said :
Angel2D4 said :

Block me baby! Hell, lets go as far as to create a world or 2 where NO UPDATES HAPPEN and block those players (the ones that play on the no update worlds) from voting at all.

I'd support that. In a New York minute.

But don't you think it's fair? If you vote "no, i dont want this update" then by being blocked you are getting what you asked for?


I am all ears for alternate solutions.

No, I don't. In fact, I believe if you're going to suggest that it's the same as suggesting remove all polls because you are only wanting yes votes on everything. Would you feel the same way when they offered eoc? We saw how well that worked.

You're not really 'all ears' (or eyes for that matter) on potential solutions to YOUR problem (your problem being people vote no to things you want) because if you were, you'd have seen that I offered you a very reasonable solution straight up.

A world or 2 that NEVER gets updates. Those peeps playing on those worlds could never vote in any of YOUR polls (so see, you'd never get a no vote from me again) so you'd have all the trash in the game that you could ever want and with no integrity and the game shot to hell you could happily know that nobody voted no in the polls.

Meh, who cares how that makes you sound.. it's what I'm seeing with my own eyes.

BTW, I didn't say I was voting no before your rampage on my comment of leaning toward NO. However, seeing how you treat people whose opinions differ from your own, I can honestly see where the 'revenge voting' thought comes from. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

12-Aug-2015 19:14:55

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I'll give my 2 cents about every question. To make the questions fit I summarised the answers drasticly.

Mod Ronan said :

The last blog mentioned PvP. Will I have to take part in PvP?
No.

Very good, it was like I expected. The pirate area east of port Phasmatys suits well for this purpose.

Mod Ronan said :

Will I need to be in a group to get the best experience rates?
No.

Again good. Although RS is called a MMO, most content and certainly skilling has always been single player.

Mod Ronan said :

Can't we get Dungeoneering or Summoning instead?
People tell us to make unique content for oldschool and there are balancing issues.

I agree with the second statement, but disagree with the first one.

As the feedback on the sailing blog has shown, people are asking for RS2 content****, xp trackers, slayer reward points, left click options, god wars dungeon, corp, removal of randoms, max cape and completionist cape, lootshare, stealing creation, soul wars, fist of guthix, world map, music shuffling, finishing existing quest storylines.

Most updates asked and released are in reality recycled updates. People know what to expect from them, and are more likely to vote yes. The uncertainness about new updates make people doubt.

But the good things of dungeoneering (and summoning) can be taken. Those randomly generated scenario's look promising. I don't really see what can be taken from summoning. That sailing would be more shipbuilding instead of sailing is a bad thing to take from summoning (pouchmaking).

Mod Ronan said :

Will sailing be more like a minigame than a skill?
Sailing will be a skill, but dungeoneering was a minigame.

Actually this is not really what matters. A new skill or new minigame. It's content, and should be fun. The rest doesn't matter.

12-Aug-2015 19:18:25

Angel2D4

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killedman said :
Angel2D4 said :

Block me baby! Hell, lets go as far as to create a world or 2 where NO UPDATES HAPPEN and block those players (the ones that play on the no update worlds) from voting at all.

I'd support that. In a New York minute.

Those worlds already exist. It's called Runescape Classic.

Oldschool Runescape is not about "no updates". It is about starting with the 2007 base, and taking the game into an entirely new direction than RS3. Without progress the game would die.

God Wars Dungeon, Rooftop Agility, Grand Exchange - how long do you think oldschool would have maintained these huge player numbers without releasing such updates? It would stagnate and eventually dry up, like Runescape Classic.

Old School RuneScape is also not about dumping in as much as you can in as short a time as possible.. that's RS3.

You claim the worlds I suggest already exist (Classic v OSRS) then I'll claim the one you want already exists (RS3 v OSRS).

See how stupid that makes either of us look?

Different games son. They are each a different game. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

12-Aug-2015 19:20:50

Jonc1492
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Blitztod said :
Good Blog, cleared up a few things,
I will be voting yes on sailing
, For everyone wanting dung and summoning, this is "Oldschool Runescape", not RS3.

Props to the Oldschool team for not giving into the crybabies and explaining to them why Dung and Summoning will not be coming to OSRS, Keep up the good work. Me and so many others want to see
OldSchool stay unique
and not turned into RS3, that's the reason why we play OSRS, please keep it that way, otherwise there's no point.

Summoning came out way before RS3 and even before RS HD. It's pretty oldschool.
;3

12-Aug-2015 19:21:19

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Send Backup said :
"We have seen an awful lot of excitement coupled with an awful lot of questions", from the way I see it the majority of posts either took this so called proposed skill as a late-April fools joke or simply responded negatively towards it.
Also, responding to the part where you mention how Dung/Summoning will take OSRS to a similar path as RS3, that is not specifically true when it comes to Dung, there is a broad circle of tweaks that can be made to allow it to suit OSRS and not take a similar path as RS3. Changes can be made to the reward systems, the raiding style and its uses outside of Daemonheim (i.*. the dungeons you have access to while PvMing).
Not only does adding a skill similar to Dung save hours and hours of dev time it also does not need so much questions answered with dev blog after dev blog and countless debates on how it'll impact the economy/PvP etc. *HYPOTHETICALLY* you can add rewards similar to chaotics which are tweaked and could ONLY be used while PvMing (similar to the trident of the seas), that's just one example of how Dung can be tweaked.
Another point that I'd like to mention is that there is a huge debate going on on whether Zeah should be repolled due to the time needed for its release. If this poll fails sailing will simply be obsolete due to the continent of Gielinor constisting mostly of land.

One last thing that I hope the devs and community take to consideration, do not rush this new skill because if it were to implemented there's no going back. Remember that.

12-Aug-2015 19:23:39

Rancor
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[#Y6RKMJRLG] said :
If this poll fails sailing will simply be obsolete due to the continent of Gielinor constisting mostly of land.

Sorry to be that guy, but continents do generally consist mostly of land, seeing as they are...continents.

4srs though, I'm assuming Sailing will either add islands or have instanced exploration paths that people can explore; I doubt that the Sailing skill is exclusively tied to Zeah.

12-Aug-2015 19:27:03

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