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Matz
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Matz

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I do not care if max cape is BIS or same as a fire cape. For the people saying it should have no bearing on pvm/pvp, so sleeping in guthans should? Poisoning your way thru fight caves at 1 all stats 75 def and spam clicking purple sweets should? Your logic is equally as flawed.

As for mod Ronan, your post suggests items will be added to comp cape, but in turn that will make it BIS and a cosmetic over ride which you "cannot offer because of polls" . Not one player in OSRS has the reqs for a trimmed comp cape met as of yet, so shouldn't you wait for 100 people to have it before even considering a cape for such a small demographic as you've done for the max cape?


Maxed players want a a versatile item, not a crappy excuse of a gold sink that never leaves the bank. Just give us something that is functional for pvm and skilling. BIS or fire cape stats plz <3

Matz

29-Jul-2015 16:03:22

Heritage
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Mod Ronan said :
Legolas said :
What the Hell is wrong with all of you? A cape that takes literally 2000+ hours of grinding shouldn't be better than a 30 minute fire cape? There's literally NO reason to get it then.

Just over 100 people out of the several hundred thousands that play Old School have ever achieved max. As much as that is an incredible accomplishment and they should be able to show it off, other players should not be expected to live up to that sort of gameplay to be able to stay on the same level in PvM/PvP.

Well said.

29-Jul-2015 16:03:53 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2015 16:04:05 by Heritage

Fe Calis

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Legolas said :
Mod Ronan said :
Legolas said :
What the Hell is wrong with all of you? A cape that takes literally 2000+ hours of grinding shouldn't be better than a 30 minute fire cape? There's literally NO reason to get it then.

Just over 100 people out of the several hundred thousands that play Old School have ever achieved max. As much as that is an incredible accomplishment and they should be able to show it off, other players should not be expected to live up to that sort of gameplay to be able to stay on the same level in PvM/PvP.

So because I've grinded out max total, not just 70 range and 40 prayer, I shouldn't be rewarded with a cape that's more useful?

Are we going to forever sit on Fire Cape as the best in slot for the entire duration this game lives for?

The Pre-EoC stats for the Max Cape were hardly game breaking. (+5 attacks, +11 defences, +4 strength, +10 prayer) You have a little more accuracy and a prayer bonus. The strength bonus was the same at +4. It won't be a MAJOR difference. Considering the cape costs 2m is another thing; even with a blowpipe you won't spend more than 500k getting a fire cape.


Can we AT THE VERY LEAST make it the combination of all the current BiS capes? This would make it:

+6 Stab
+1 Slash
+1 Crush
+10 Magic
+4 Range

+11 to all Defences

+6 Prayer
+4 Strength


How do you not see this? I'm allright with giving it some stats but not BIS in every way. Ronan is right. We should avoid one item to rule them all. So BIS Is not a option.

If we make it so you can add items to the cape, then opponents would not know what equipment the person is wearing. This will also not work.

I am all down with BIS def/atk bonusses but NOT BIS in strength or prayer.

29-Jul-2015 16:04:51

Matz
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@high gambles,

How frequently does it matter what cape your opponent is using? Only in PVP. First off most maxed players rarely pvp
Second, if he's in dh he's obviously in a fire cape, if it's a maxed Mage it's clearly s God cape
third, not many people are going to risk a 2m cape for the slightest edge.
Not that it has a bearing of you fight back anyway... If anything you should hope max cape has good stats so in the 1/100000 chance you're fighting a maxed player you can get that big coins drop

29-Jul-2015 16:07:09 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2015 16:08:53 by Matz

Fe Calis

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Matz said :
@high gambles,

How frequently does it matter what cape your opponent is using? Only in PVP. First off most maxed players rarely pvp
Second, if he's in dh he's obviously in a fire cape, if it's a maxed Mage it's clearly s God cape
third, not many people are going to risk a 2m cape for the slightest edge.
Not that it has a bearing of you fight back anyway... If anything you should hope max cape has good stats so in the 1/100000 chance you're fighting a maxed player you can get that big coins drop

It will all start with max cape, then completionist cape, then other capes, other items, cosmetic overrides. Then our game will just be a lower graphics Pre-EOC rs3 with nobody knowing what all equipment is.

29-Jul-2015 16:15:10

Matz
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Matz

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Fe Calis said :
Matz said :
@high gambles,

How frequently does it matter what cape your opponent is using? Only in PVP. First off most maxed players rarely pvp
Second, if he's in dh he's obviously in a fire cape, if it's a maxed Mage it's clearly s God cape
third, not many people are going to risk a 2m cape for the slightest edge.
Not that it has a bearing of you fight back anyway... If anything you should hope max cape has good stats so in the 1/100000 chance you're fighting a maxed player you can get that big coins drop

It will all start with max cape, then completionist cape, then other capes, other items, cosmetic overrides. Then our game will just be a lower graphics Pre-EOC rs3 with nobody knowing what all equipment is.


This is truly end game content. 99 every single skill. And if it is polled exactly as mod Ronan amended it to be, it is not a cosmetic over ride, just a new item with the same stats.
EXACTLY how gilded boots and scimitars were released as more expensive and fancier versions of their rune counter parts.

clearly the community is okay with equivalent items with the same stats but different looks. The only way there could be an issue is if max cape absorbs other item's effect and stats, which Ronan said he does not want to poll

29-Jul-2015 16:22:28 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2015 16:34:37 by Matz

Benvil
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Mod Ronan said :
Hey everyone,

Thank you for all of the feedback so far. We've made the following changes to the blog:

<li>Added a question for the max cape (should it have the stats of the fire cape?)*
***;li>Changed the skill total world requirements to 1250, 1500, 1750 and 2000*
***;li>Replaced the question about water jug packs with a question about plant pot packs*
***;li>Expanded on the wild dog charm****;/li>

A few people are wondering why we are not allowing the max cape to be used as a cosmetic override or having it be usable as a number of different capes. To expand on this a little...

We want to make sure that every item in Old School is easily distinguished and it is easy to understand what different items to. This rules out cosmetic overrides completely.

It also means that we would need to create a visually unique version of the max cape for every best-in-slot cape currently in game if we wanted the max cape to be ideal everywhere. We would also need to add additional restrictions to some versions of the cape. This is not something that we are willing to do for the max cape. While we want people to be able to use their cape and show off their achievement there are a number of complications that come along with trying to make it equal to every best-in-slot cape in the game.

We may attempt something like this for the completionist cape when the time comes where we offer it. For now, the offer of a max cape with the stats of either trimmed skill capes or the fire cape will remain.
Just make the colour of Max Cape change depending on which cape you used on it?

Crimson Red = Fire Cape
Dark Blue = Mage Arena Cape
Ranger Green = Ava's Accumulator
Deep Purple = Ardougne Cape

29-Jul-2015 16:26:16

Raros

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Legolas said :
I'm very disappointed in all of you. Look at yourselves.

"This cape shouldn't be in-game because no np waste"

"Setting insane goals takes the fun out"

"It's fine if only a few have it, but once most do it's not an achievement."

"The stats shouldn't be higher than a fire cape."


What the Hell is wrong with all of you? A cape that takes literally 2000+ hours of grinding shouldn't be better than a 30 minute fire cape? There's literally NO reason to get it then.

Are we going to forever sit and spin on nothing higher stats than what we currently have? IT'S A CAPE. IT'S NOT LIKE IT HAS BARROWS ARMOR STATS. The stats on it pre-eoc were perfect. Fire cape is great, and a good item to use, but for those of us that take the time to grind out this kind of cape should be rewarded with a truly pro cape.

Setting goals and maxing out a game is the point of video games. We can go at our own pace and enjoy ourselves. Not everyone has the unhealthy "no xp waste" and plays for 15 hours each and every day. There's a few that do, but don't punish everyone for that handful.


You people sicken me. This game needs to advance in order to evolve. Maxing has always been a plan of mine, and in OSRS I plan to do that. I'm still about 500 levels short, and I'm taking my time. But by adding a cape that's no better than what I have had in my bank for 2 years is making me just want to sit at 1700 forever.

Think for once people. This cape isn't the end of the world. EVERY SINGLE SKILL helps combat in some way. People with 2277 should have a best in slot to use. We've earned it. We did it all. Why should we have to suffer because you can't do the same?
You just got rek* by Ronan mate.

29-Jul-2015 16:29:34

Im Nate

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cVesper said :
Okay wow this dev blog. So much I hope changes.

Personally love the max caps coming to old school. But honestly... PINK??? Can we make it so we can adjust the colors to any color? Similar to hairstyle colors interface. One for main color one for trim. Quite frankly I'd never wear a pink cape I don't care what it took to get or if it was BIS.


I'm pretty sure you will able able to change the colors of the cape like in rs3, if not then they really made it horrible. They made it cost a ton, made it ugly and made it unusable. Maxed Sept 24th, 2015 - 134th to max

29-Jul-2015 16:32:15

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