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iTwisted Bow

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menacemenace said :
I would love to see some future boss loots be similar to how you formed the orb of the armadyl battle staff whereby it took you a long time to collect 100 shards that were untradable and you were given a long term reward should you be unlucky with the other rare loots whilst collecting the shards

absolutely fantastic idea

Everybody 'round me saying I should relax 'cuz I've been going hard 'till my eyes roll back but,
all I wanna do is forget about my past and smoke a'lil ranarr, really nothing too drastic..

26-Nov-2014 15:31:40

iTwisted Bow

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Mod John C said :
I've changed the negative bonuses on the Serpentine helm to -5 from -10, this keeps the helm melee focused and doesn't hurt you too much should you want to hybrid while you're still better off with a helm switch and still allows for a ranged and magic variant of the helmet in the future.

Regarding the drop rate discussion, those won't be decided until the boss has been completed and balanced. One of my core aims for this project is to provide a good source of stable income, I'd like to achieve this with the standard drop table so the signature drops can be rare.

I rather think it will be O/P now though

verac helm like stats with a slight worst range neg att bonus and no prayer, good for rnage/melee (wars)
Everybody 'round me saying I should relax 'cuz I've been going hard 'till my eyes roll back but,
all I wanna do is forget about my past and smoke a'lil ranarr, really nothing too drastic..

26-Nov-2014 15:33:16

Switch 07

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1/768 sounds extremly rare...
Don** forget that you solo it. If the kill takes 5 minutes, you won´t be able to kill a lot more than 10 per hour. 77 hours average to get a drop... Noo. I doubt the items will be worth more than 20m longterm --> 20m/77 = 260k/h?

(I made all these numbers up.)

26-Nov-2014 15:44:35

Slay Helm

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Switch 07 said :
1/768 sounds extremly rare...
Don** forget that you solo it. If the kill takes 5 minutes, you won´t be able to kill a lot more than 10 per hour. 77 hours average to get a drop... Noo. I doubt the items will be worth more than 20m longterm --> 20m/77 = 260k/h?

(I made all these numbers up.)
The thing is, it might not be 1/768, it might not take 5 mins, it might not take 77 hours to get a drop, the drops might not be 20m and the standard loot might make it alot more than 260k/hr.
No point guessing right now because we don't know enough.
Ik you made it up, but it kinda shows that it was a pointless comment, not to be rude or anything but we simply don't know enough :/

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26-Nov-2014 15:50:56 - Last edited on 26-Nov-2014 15:53:21 by Slay Helm

Switch 07

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Slay Helm said :
Switch 07 said :
1/768 sounds extremly rare...
Don** forget that you solo it. If the kill takes 5 minutes, you won´t be able to kill a lot more than 10 per hour. 77 hours average to get a drop... Noo. I doubt the items will be worth more than 20m longterm --> 20m/77 = 260k/h?

(I made all these numbers up.)
The thing is, it might not be 1/768, it might not take 5 mins, it might not take 77 hours to get a drop, the drops might not be 20m and the standard loot might make it alot more than 260k/hr. No point guessing right now because we don't know enough.

I wanted to show that 1/768 sounds way too rare, based on some estimations. Just to get a rough magnitude.
But you´re right actually, my assumptions might not be accurate at all.

26-Nov-2014 15:54:35

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iTwisted Bow said :
menacemenace said :
I would love to see some future boss loots be similar to how you formed the orb of the armadyl battle staff whereby it took you a long time to collect 100 shards that were untradable and you were given a long term reward should you be unlucky with the other rare loots whilst collecting the shards

absolutely fantastic idea

I did really like that. It didn't feel like you were wasting your time at glacors because you were always getting closer and closer towards being able to create an armadyl battlestaff. It's a good way to deviate away from the standard drop rate system once in a while and it was good that you also had the option to cash in earlier if you weren't the type to go and kill 1000 of them.
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26-Nov-2014 15:55:13

iTwisted Bow

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Switch 07 said :
Slay Helm said :
Switch 07 said :
1/768 sounds extremly rare...
Don** forget that you solo it. If the kill takes 5 minutes, you won´t be able to kill a lot more than 10 per hour. 77 hours average to get a drop... Noo. I doubt the items will be worth more than 20m longterm --> 20m/77 = 260k/h?

(I made all these numbers up.)
The thing is, it might not be 1/768, it might not take 5 mins, it might not take 77 hours to get a drop, the drops might not be 20m and the standard loot might make it alot more than 260k/hr. No point guessing right now because we don't know enough.

I wanted to show that 1/768 sounds way too rare, based on some estimations. Just to get a rough magnitude.
But you´re right actually, my assumptions might not be accurate at all.

1/768 = 1/256 of drop rate of an items 1 / 3 drop chance for a specific item, pls understand that 1/256 would be the drop rate and 1/768 would be a specie item, say if you're aiming for only the range weapon asa drop it would be 1/768, but for any item drop it would be 1/256 like how corp is 1/512 for a sigil, but a specific sigil arcane or spectral is 1/1316 and elysian is 1/3633
Everybody 'round me saying I should relax 'cuz I've been going hard 'till my eyes roll back but,
all I wanna do is forget about my past and smoke a'lil ranarr, really nothing too drastic..

26-Nov-2014 16:10:46 - Last edited on 26-Nov-2014 16:11:46 by iTwisted Bow

Switch 07

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iTwisted Bow said :
Switch 07 said :
Slay Helm said :
Switch 07 said :
1/768 sounds extremly rare...
Don** forget that you solo it. If the kill takes 5 minutes, you won´t be able to kill a lot more than 10 per hour. 77 hours average to get a drop... Noo. I doubt the items will be worth more than 20m longterm --> 20m/77 = 260k/h?

(I made all these numbers up.)
The thing is, it might not be 1/768, it might not take 5 mins, it might not take 77 hours to get a drop, the drops might not be 20m and the standard loot might make it alot more than 260k/hr. No point guessing right now because we don't know enough.

I wanted to show that 1/768 sounds way too rare, based on some estimations. Just to get a rough magnitude.
But you´re right actually, my assumptions might not be accurate at all.

1/768 = 1/256 of drop rate of an items 1 / 3 drop chance for a specific item, pls understand that 1/256 would be the drop rate and 1/768 would be a specie item, say if you're aiming for only the range weapon asa drop it would be 1/768, but for any item drop it would be 1/256 like how corp is 1/512 for a sigil, but a specific sigil arcane or spectral is 1/1316 and elysian is 1/3633

Oh I missunderstood that. Yes 1/256 for any item sounds reasonable

26-Nov-2014 16:17:50

Slay Helm

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iTwisted Bow said :
1/768 = 1/256 of drop rate of an items 1 / 3 drop chance for a specific item, pls understand that 1/256 would be the drop rate and 1/768 would be a specie item, say if you're aiming for only the range weapon asa drop it would be 1/768, but for any item drop it would be 1/256 like how corp is 1/512 for a sigil, but a specific sigil arcane or spectral is 1/1316 and elysian is 1/3633
Yeah, bandos items are 1/128 - BCP is 1/384, Tassets are 1/384, Boots are 1/384.
Sigils are 1/585, spectral is 1/1365, arcane is 1/1365, elysian is 1/4095.
You can land on the bandos table pretty easily, or the sigil table pretty easily - but it doesn't mean you're going to get the best item.

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26-Nov-2014 16:19:30

Grakh

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I like it! ALSO, please please please make the helm look super sweet... please! But most of all, like i said on the last form, please please please make this boss drop good high lvl seeds! like herb and tree seeds. IMO a snake boss dropping good seeds makes since very well. why? well lets see how corps ranarr seed drop helped the game? it didnt, give use monsters with drops that doesn't exist much, not ranarr seeds which any lvl 10 can thieve for... maybe expand RDT? but if not please please please, good seed drops, possibly lots of stackable drops, and again, make that helm look realllyyyy BA! I think if we are getting another use for torstol herbs, it wouldnt be bad to add more torstol seeds to the game.

Edit: if you read this post at all, please make the helm look good with Bandos armour. And again, be mindful of the drops, lets get some hard to find loot on that DT.

26-Nov-2014 16:42:31 - Last edited on 26-Nov-2014 16:51:45 by Grakh

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