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Mini Aurelia

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Hey everyone, we have made some further changes to the dev blog based on your feedback.

The magic staff from the kraken has been tweaked again. A question has been added to ask whether the Graveyard of Shadows should be made a multi attack area.

Better but still wholly outclassed by a whip in every slayer related situation. The max hit needs to be increased further if you want this staff to have a use for high levels doing slayer (a whip can hit 54 and hasta can hit 52 at the same speed for less cost).

I think the staff is fine for now, but I do still think there should be some nice magic items in the future that increase damage

It won't be worth using in its current state though. Why would I use a staff I can hit 32s with (+15% due to helm(i)) over a hasta that can hit 52s at the same speed for a metal dragon task? (the accuracy would be similar as well due to the high stab bonus of a hasta) Likewise for any other tasks where magic could be useful, a whip/hasta is much higher dps and cheaper.

21-Jan-2014 11:21:32 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2014 11:22:57 by Mini Aurelia

Ph il
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I really like everything thats being talked about in this dev blog but i just have a couple questions. What is to become of the red dragons? Are they being moved or are lava dragons the new red dragons? If there being moved, where?

21-Jan-2014 11:53:13 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2014 11:53:42 by Ph il

Sk8r Dan Man
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The new magic staff is 25% faster, NOT 20%!!!


Fix this. You have miscalculated.

Normally spells are auto cast at a rate of 1 spell per 3.0 seconds, or 20 SPM (spells per minute). This is the same as the attack speed of longswords, maces, and spears. Every game tick is .6 seconds, so the next fastest step you can make is 1 spell per 2.4 seconds, or 25 SPM, which is the attack speed of scimitars, short swords and daggers.

25 SPM is NOT 20% faster than 20 SPM. It is 25% faster! Attacking with this staff will yield 25% more damage over time than other spells with the same max hit, not 20%. Fix this, because people need to know the truth. This staff is better than you say it is.

Attack speed is a ratio of attacks over time. An increase in attacks over time is never equivalent to the decrease in time between each attack. You have to determine the increase in the numerator, not the decrease in the denominator, because the two are never the same in any ratio.

21-Jan-2014 12:12:41

T o m m i
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Allow the staff to be used in PvP to make it worth something... it's not op but the problem is that it would be used by 1 itemers, so just make it lose like 50 charges on death in wildy/PvP worlds and make it impossible to use it with less than 100 charges

21-Jan-2014 12:43:18

Sybe

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Allow the staff to be used in PvP to make it worth something... it's not op but the problem is that it would be used by 1 itemers, so just make it lose like 50 charges on death in wildy/PvP worlds and make it impossible to use it with less than 100 charges

Make it lose all charges upon death even if you keep it. Also you can only fully charge it.
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21-Jan-2014 12:56:34

kttyslyr4567

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chill out,

as for the Fountain of Rune. I haven't seen anyone support this.

How about adjust the magic EXP one can receive there instead? Get twice the EXP at the expense of double the requirements for runes per spell: ie: alch would require 10 fire and 2 nature runes for 126 EXP.

The Kraken Staff's improvements in regard to 28 max and 25% speed boost is sufficient. Please make it available for PvP. Special attack?

Instead of ditching 10 servers, make 10 of them F2P. You know this will help.

21-Jan-2014 14:51:12

P E A C E
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I think the staff's speed and max hits are fine how it is. I think it should be cheaper to cast the spell (less than 100gp per cast tbh). The only thing I would use it for would be PvP though. I'd like to see this polled.

21-Jan-2014 15:05:28

Soronbe

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i hate to allways post negative feedback, but so you know its easy to just post about the bad stuff and forget about the good stuff. so you should know that ur doing a great job which is greatly appreciated.

anyways the staff... you took a step in right direction. that being said u can do a few more haha. i just wish to use magic for more than rex and 1 single only mageable slayer monster. becouse this is what will happen even with this new staff. and as i metioned earlier you talk about dark bow and whip? if you look at how much better whip is % wise compared to the 2nd best at the time of its release which was the dragon scimitar you will see a noticeable difference... and i think this new mage staff doesnt even manage to beat the 2nd best magic spell in game. then again magic is so much worse than melee so it should be buffed to be equally good. and even if magic became as good as whip, ppl would use whip becouse it doesnt cost anything to use. so it should be made even better than whip on more than 2 creatures on rs... i loved the concept of SOA which was better to use against abbysalls and dragons for instance. so just saying idm it being abit expensive as long as its more dps than whip on certain monsters like black demons, or nechryals? i know its tricky for you cuz if you make it too good ppl will start shouting OP and vote no, but i think we need it to be abit OP. in osrs we cant allways look at the existing stuff we have and not make any new content that is better than the existing one. please if you cant increase the max hit make it so that you have a hit range of 24-28 at 99 unless it splashes? just plz try to balance magic with melee and not only watch if its too good compared to the other magics. alternativly let the boss version of kraken drop the more powerfull staff.

21-Jan-2014 15:40:10

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