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Metal Little
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Metal Little

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I think the Verac’s set special effect should be reverted back to the initial proposed effect in which it would restore prayer points. I also like Ahrim’s 25% chance of double hits mentioned in Dev Blog: Content Poll #26 . Overall, I like the idea of sprucing up the Barrows sets’ special abilities especially since some of them are largely useless, such as Karil’s special lowering Agility, Ahrim’s staff being ousted by superior staves, and Torag’s special reducing run energy.

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09-Oct-2014 02:28:39

Ferocire

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Ahrims was fine at 2x damage splats at a 25% chance

The more I think about it, the more I agree. The damage would be high, yes-but it's nothing we haven't seen before.

Mages used to do a very similar same thing through the spellstacking technique..only we wasn't limited to using full Ahrim's nor was we limited to relying on a 1/4th chance rate. We spellstacked any time we pleased and we could do so while being in mage tank gear. Nobody complained about it back then and this was before meleers even had piety.

While it is no substitute for spellstacking, it would be the next best thing. Ahrim's needs something major, otherwise it's not worth using as one simply loses out on too much def from not being able to use a helm and shield.
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09-Oct-2014 03:34:54

No Eggs

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"Old" Ahrims:
25% chance to deal another splat with up 50% damage.

1 * 100% + 0.25 * 50% = 1.125.
On average you will deal 12.5% damage..
But you can't use a slayer helm (+15%), Another Staff (+15%), Occult necklace (+10%)..

So that makes the set pretty weak.

Now you nerfed it even more?, damage wise?

Now it is 25% chance to deal 30% more damage..

0.75 * 100% + 0.25 * 130% = 1.075
An average damage increase of 7.5%.. That is even worse.

09-Oct-2014 09:37:52

3x3

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For the Verac's effect, wouldn't it be more worth it to just use an unholy amulet? That would give +2 attack to all styles and +1 more prayer bonus than the bonus given by the new barrows amulet.

10-Oct-2014 03:39:31

Avioxus

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verac restoring prayer is alot better than just adding more prayer bonus, could be great for bossing and plenty of other things, you guys dont seem to mind all the people afk splashing goblins spiders and rats in every world but you dont want people to afk in veracs?.......... just add a 5 minute logout timer that applies to combat.. 5-10 minutes. dont take away a good buff for the verac set instead of fixing the root of why that buff wouldnt be good.

11-Oct-2014 15:37:07

Doodskop94

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On some sets the effects seem really powerfull, not op though and I really like this idea to buff the barrows sets, one of the best up to now!
However I don't see the use of for example the new verac's set, it isn't worth buying a degradable expensive amulet for. I prefer the old effect much more.

I agree with No eggs, it seems a nice buff, however ahrims is still too weak to be worth it.
Ahrim's staff should be one handed as well, every other staff is.
Adding a 10% damage boost to the staff when wearing the full set (independent of the necklace) would make the set worth
Then you can still give it the boost of 1/4 (30%/50%) with the necklace as a nice buff, I would personally give it atleast 40% so the necklace on average is as powerful as an occult, the occult will still be better in every other scenario however the way it's now it would be better to take an occult with the set and it's not exactly an expensive amulet for 400k and its not even degradable...

12-Oct-2014 11:28:39 - Last edited on 12-Oct-2014 11:31:56 by Doodskop94

Ghostoo666

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3x3 said :
For the Verac's effect, wouldn't it be more worth it to just use an unholy amulet? That would give +2 attack to all styles and +1 more prayer bonus than the bonus given by the new barrows amulet.

The gives the implication that the amulet of the damned gives no stats. +1 to all attack is 9 less than the amulet gives, so the attack of the amulet of the damned outweighs your 1 prayer bonus.

Verac effect needs to be reverted. Using full veracs and amulet won't be cheaper than using ppots so let it be.

14-Oct-2014 03:16:14

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Amulet damned=worthless. Still worthless even with the original buffs compared to end game PvE/PvP armor. 5/21/2017 The day I claimed ownership of the Old School Content Suggestions.

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14-Oct-2014 07:28:22

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