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Zynk

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Mod Ronan said :
Metsuri said :
I think torag's set needs new basic set effect. My idea to it is that it should be like dharok's effect, for every lost 1hp it would boost your defence lvl by 1%. Boost would be invisible.


I really like this idea and ran it past Mod John C who said it would be possible. I think people will be more receptive to this idea as it does focus more on the tanky side of the gear, something that is very much associated with Torag's. We won't be able to do it at the same rate you suggested (10hp would = 90 bonus defence levels at 99 def, a bit OTT) but the basic idea is definitely one I'm fond of.

I'm going to update the original post, thank you.


I would rather have this be the base set effect as well, but this is going in the right direction! At 10HP there is a lot of risk of getting killed involved with that high Defense, especially if bossing. Personally I think it'd be balanced at a 1% rate, if not then a 1/3% rate (max 33%) would be okay too. As for the amulet, it could have a 1/4 chance to reduce incoming damage by 15% (reverse of Dharoks).

07-Oct-2014 17:05:57 - Last edited on 07-Oct-2014 17:16:51 by Zynk

Metsuri

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Mod Ronan said :
Metsuri said :
I think torag's set needs new basic set effect. My idea to it is that it should be like dharok's effect, for every lost 1hp it would boost your defence lvl by 1%. Boost would be invisible.


I really like this idea and ran it past Mod John C who said it would be possible. I think people will be more receptive to this idea as it does focus more on the tanky side of the gear, something that is very much associated with Torag's. We won't be able to do it at the same rate you suggested (10hp would = 90 bonus defence levels at 99 def, a bit OTT) but the basic idea is definitely one I'm fond of.

I'm going to update the original post, thank you.

I meant it for new set effect, not for amulet... D:

07-Oct-2014 17:34:01

Ezpeon

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Warlock said :
Elev said :
So you're saying that I can hit a 30/30, a 60, with barrage with the full ahrims set and the amulet on? if true, OP MUCH??!


You can also hit a 96 with a dark bow or a 75 with an Armadyl godsword - what's the difference?


As somebody else mentioned, both of those items require special attack to hit high damage. Ahrims set effect will be able to do it without special attack, similarly to Dragon Bolts (e), but it will be happening much more often.

Oh and, there's still the 20 second freeze.

Oh and, you can combo a 30-30 barrage with a 75 AGS spec.

07-Oct-2014 18:09:53 - Last edited on 07-Oct-2014 18:10:47 by Ezpeon

Clifton 7

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The Torag's set effect no longer increases attack speed and, instead, boosts defence based on how much health has been lost.

Torag's is literally the best melee defence armour available in-game, it most certainly doesn't need a buff for defence. Why buff stuff just so people will play a dead minigame? Forcing people to play content they don't want to play by bribing them with rewards or xp is just bad design.. that's the direction rs3 went. They bribe you with rewards & bonus xp just to log in and click a few buttons.

Sticking buffs on end-game content into rewards for doing dead content is a bad idea. You know what happens when you release new best-in-slot items and you simply make them tradeable w/ no real reqs. Since staff of the dead came out, how many times are you going to have to buff the master's wand until someone wants to use it again? How are you going to buff pest control after everyone gets their void? They aren't going to train there afterwards when there's the far superior option of nightmare zone.

Simply put, when things are buffed unnecessarily or make previous content obsolete (examples above), I am going to vote no. There is absolutely nothing wrong with adding variety or something new to the game, but you don't have to continually boost damage and armour stats to have that.

Less than 200 people have replied to this thread, and I suspect there isn't a vast majority that has even read it or knows it exists. With over 30,000 people voting in the corp poll, it's really unfair to both parties to restrict such updates to failing/passing based on whether or not a single question in the poll is worded nicely or not. Not enough people read the blog or are active in providing feedback for proposed content. There should be a requirement to read (or at least open) the blog before voting. It would be nice to have the ability to read the full description of something that is polled in-game. I know you can do it Ash ;) .

07-Oct-2014 18:18:41

Lambodiablot

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The more I think about it, the more I dislike the new ability for torag.

Nobody uses the full set because the hammers are weaker than most other options. The previous ability fixed that.

The increased defense would have to be pretty drastic to make it worth replacing the dps increase you planned before.

07-Oct-2014 18:20:06

P E A C E
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I hate the idea of the amulet. I love the idea of giving shades a useful reward, but the amulet is bad. I will be voting no because it just makes the game confusing with so many different set effects.

The real solution is to simply make torags, ahrims, and karils not suck by changing their default set effect.

07-Oct-2014 18:43:28

Agaard

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"Question: Should the sinister chest give herbs in noted form?"

Is that needed ? No.
Is that bad for the game ? Yes, deleting activity (sinister run)
Is that reduce bots activities ? No.

Better give more herbs from Sinister key, that would reduce the bot impact.

How can you think about such a thing just like that with no reason ?


EDIT :

"The Torag's set effect no longer increases attack speed and, instead, boosts defence based on how much health has been lost."

Useless, when you tank in PvM, you don't have fun standing still at 15hp front of corp.

So

No thanks

07-Oct-2014 19:33:26 - Last edited on 07-Oct-2014 19:37:55 by Agaard

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