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Janos Morgan
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After rereading the post, and reviewing my earlier post, there are a couple of things I want to point out.

Mod Balance said :
And to help in the longer term, we are starting a rework of Treasure Hunter , which will have greater emphasis on cosmetics and conveniences.
Aren't cosmetics what Solomon's General Store is for? Even if you're talking about "Rares", we have enough of those in the game as it is. Likewise, Solomon's has not really had a lot of attention as of late, despite the endless Fairy outfits which all feel the same, a Heart outfit which just feels like something from Valentine's Day, etc.

Regarding "conveniences" as you put it (I assume you mean things like experience boosts, runes, food, etc), these are fine. But, bear in mind, Treasure Hunter, in a way, is pretty much a reskin of the loot box system that has been plaguing the video game industry for the past few years. My question is: How are Jagex not going to fall into this kind of practice with TH?

Like many others, I agree that the content this year has (for the most part) been very lackluster, with a lot of temporary content. Many people on this thread might remember me as being a long-time protester of these Reborn by Fire style events, which I will still continue to oppose, despite the daily cap lifted.

Actions speak louder than words. We need to see what is happening, and cutting down on microtransactions is a good start. The long term survival of the game should be more important than the temporary profit surge made by events like those Moebius stated in his post.
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24-Oct-2017 12:42:39 - Last edited on 24-Oct-2017 12:48:01 by Janos Morgan

Ghosttalon
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Rabpyre said :
The new owners of Jagex stated the issue very clearly in an interview: "Jagex is a cash cow" . That offensive and spiteful remark showed the new owners' attitude and intent with crystal clarity. The contempt for paying players is staggering and deserves to be punished. I am nobody's cash cow!

So, like many others here I am afraid that I shall not be renewing my membership this December, nor shall I pay Jagex real-world money until the company is back in player-friendly hands. Whoever sold out to the Chinese I fear may have set the company on a path to oblivion: sad but well deserved. I just feel sorry for all the good developers that have been sold down the drain by a few greedy people.



Source? Not that I don't believe that is the net desired effect.

But my cynical side suggests there is some xenophobia here as well. "Whoever sold out to the Chinese" ... Ah, yes, there it is. Recall that the owners of Jagex first "sold out" to IVP, "the 'Mericans", the worst of my fellow countrymen. Some of us complained then, but were ignored and the transition between no mtx and lots of mtx was stark, and it quickly got much worse. The mtx transition between IVP and Shandong has been much less marked -- there hasn't even been a real mtx shift in strategy, and I'd need comparative data to be convinced there is a real increase in frequency. Regardless of where they are, corporations are no different, and their business model is to use as many other businesses and people as they can as a "cash cow".

That's not to say I don't despise mtx, but you're all just now having a fit, after 5 years? What did you expect to happen?

24-Oct-2017 12:46:10

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Too little, too late, time and time again. I loved this game and I love the community but this is just rediculous. I feel like I made the correct decision here - why didn't you guys go out there and prove me wrong? You've literally had years.
You know what I'm referring to, I'm sure. :|

What happened to it being Just About the Gaming EXperience?
That was never intended as a guideline for microtransactions.
Yknow. Experience. It's a bad way to go.

Experience from learning from past mistakes seems to be what's lacking here, but sadly for you guys you can't buy it on treasure hunter.

Sooner or later the UK government is going to regulate gambling crap like this in video games. I look forward to the day it does. Sure, the government are slow and take forever to acknowledge the issue, but the clock has been ticking on for years and all the research is out there waiting for them to open. My advice to Jagex? Cut out the gambling.
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24-Oct-2017 12:49:23 - Last edited on 24-Oct-2017 13:39:51 by Salubrious

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The sad and simple fact is that the game is going to the mobile market, where MTX is part of the game play. Once the RS mobile is released, then OSRS will also be forced to endure the MTX too. Probabley more so because its code and game is simpler to adjust to the mobile market that RS3.
Why do you think all the coders have been taken off the game, and made to work on the mobile, its not rocket science.

I don't mind the MTX, except for the selling of XP and BXP, because thats just ruined all our hard work and effort in the game. Took me 5 hard years work to get a maxed account, now I see them happen in 3 months. Together with ppl buying xp and gaining 200-300mill xp per week.
Who want to be part of an unfair game, were you can pay to win, there is no achievement in that! (Really miss the Gowers) :(
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24-Oct-2017 12:53:40

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II XP II said :
(Really miss the Gowers) :(


People should not forget that ultimately it were the Gowers who sold out. And at the time that that happened, MMO's which were sold out being turned into MTX ridden products was nothing new. Yet the Gowers, which as educated as they are, whilst they must have been fully aware of this chose to sell out anyway.

Many people would likely have done the same, but bare in mind that by their actions they've contributed just as well to this form of monetization of RuneScape. Heck, it all stems down to them selling out.

24-Oct-2017 13:00:23

Janos Morgan
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II XP II said :
The sad and simple fact is that the game is going to the mobile market, where MTX is part of the game play. Once the RS mobile is released, then OSRS will also be forced to endure the MTX too. Probabley more so because its code and game is simpler to adjust to the mobile market that RS3.
Why do you think all the coders have been taken off the game, and made to work on the mobile, its not rocket science.
I hate to say it, but I agree. I remember Jim Sterling discussed an issue like this in his latest video (titled Turning Players Into Payers ). He talked about how the "it's just cosmetic" argument has now morphed microtransactions in video games to stuff like... this, as well as loot boxes (which I classify Treasure Hunter as) having turned games into "glorified gambling simulators".

The "75 free keys when you buy 75" promotions that sometimes pop up here do not help with this, as it seems to target people who are vulnerable or addicted to gambling. Gods help us if things like dynamic pricing make is to Runescape, especially with the mobile platform coming up soon.
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24-Oct-2017 13:04:11 - Last edited on 24-Oct-2017 13:10:20 by Janos Morgan

Kittyfoxfire
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Honestly I could not care either way . If someone wants to fast track on the game and buy a lot of stuff off th, it in no way downgrades teh stuff I have worked for.

What I do mind is while rs3 is subjected to MTX events every 2 weeks ... OSRS is getting all the great updates before RS3

and MTX is prolly funding it

Hey? Why does OSRS get a halloween event on oct 16th and on rs3.... its the 23rd and there is nothing

Actually even worse seems they are putting all the Hollween event items on TH???

What the heck? If you plan on using RS3 to fund everything you should put the updates there forst

24-Oct-2017 13:04:20

Ghosttalon
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Since mtx are here to stay, keep the xp bit that most seem to be complaining about. Because absurd amounts of buyable xp mean I get access to slightly less absurd amounts of xp for free (well, for my membership contribution).

And that means I can get Invention to 99, get maxed cape, and get the hell out all the sooner. That's really my last goal at this point. And obviously it is an empty, pointless, meaningless goal.

24-Oct-2017 13:09:28 - Last edited on 24-Oct-2017 13:11:09 by Ghosttalon

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Amygdala MD said :
Home Lander said :
Just play OSRS. Start over and stop complaining, it's already gone too far.


If all RS3 players would do that, where do you think they're going to grab their MTX money next?


The fact more people will be buying memberships and or bonds. RS3 lost so many players so they made up for it with MTX updates. OSRS is much cheaper to maintain thus making it less likely to ever need MTX updates to keep it viable.
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24-Oct-2017 13:38:50

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