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boidae
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I think some tokens need a bit of mystery, but not many

they could do it so the more token stack you have the less the token can sell for, to prevent manip.

but at same time jagex controls the flow so I assume everythings how they want it

but people buy keys at promos for the exp and the hope for the item, and a hope for a nice bit of gain, I unlocked the assassin walk when it was released and its already like 800mill, that's where the madness is, the gain of 100's of mills (some tokens increasing in price faster than any item ever released and they mtx related items)

but as a one use item, price rise is inevitable on some so max cash for zombie walk in the time from release in gains is economically sound compared to disc items?

31-Oct-2019 21:06:20 - Last edited on 31-Oct-2019 21:33:09 by boidae

I ate all
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Is it just me or are there more days where there are promos than no promos?

It's like a grocery store advertising "OMG LOOK! ZUCCHINIS ARE ON SALE ONLY 99 CENTS!"

Everyday.


I used to save daily challenge keys for TH promos, but now I don't because everyday is a TH promo.
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02-Nov-2019 06:10:17

Theos
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I ate all said :
Is it just me or are there more days where there are promos than no promos?

It's like a grocery store advertising "OMG LOOK! ZUCCHINIS ARE ON SALE ONLY 99 CENTS!"

Everyday.


I used to save daily challenge keys for TH promos, but now I don't because everyday is a TH promo.


This is so true. Everyday is a TH promo. This is how you know the oversaturation of promos is really bad. TH promos repeat so often, it feels like we have lava laterns every week now. There are also new cosmetic tokens which end up becoming junk after a couple reiterations due to them being reintroduced so often within a short time span.
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05-Nov-2019 13:34:53

Jakey Boy
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No support. It's fine as it is. Would support making them untradable though as that undeniably solves the OP's issue. 200M all skills, Trimmed comp Cape, MQC
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10-Nov-2019 22:07:20

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Jakey Boy said :
No support. It's fine as it is. Would support making them untradable though as that undeniably solves the OP's issue.


Making them untradable, while continuing the excessive promotions doesn't solve the problem at all. It will just result in people cashing them out in Treasure Hunter for oddments.

The problem here is the oversaturation of events. Everyday there's a different TH promotion now, and there are so many new cosmetics that it is hard to keep track of them. These cosmetics lose prestige as well when the tokens hit such low values.
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14-Nov-2019 13:05:19

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Kalea Sprite said :
~ Furthermore, disagree with the premise that "oversaturation" results in "worthless items" because of the principle that "one person's worthless item is another person's valued treasure." ~


Theos said :
~ These cosmetics lose prestige as well when the tokens hit such low values.


What do you mean by prestige?
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14-Nov-2019 23:20:38

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Kalea Sprite said :
Kalea Sprite said :
~ Furthermore, disagree with the premise that "oversaturation" results in "worthless items" because of the principle that "one person's worthless item is another person's valued treasure." ~


Theos said :
~ These cosmetics lose prestige as well when the tokens hit such low values.


What do you mean by prestige?


pres·tige
noun
widespread respect and admiration felt for someone or something on the basis of a perception of their achievements or quality.

In this context, I meant "status". These items start to become perceived as worthless. Tokens, and items that are rare to obtain or have limited quantity in circulation such as the Zombie Walk which is trading over max cash is considered a "prestigious" animation due to how limited it is in available.
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15-Nov-2019 00:21:55 - Last edited on 15-Nov-2019 00:22:17 by Theos

Kalea Sprite

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Theos said :
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In this context, I meant "status". These items start to become perceived as worthless. ~
These cosmetics appear to be presented as fun adornments rather than prestige, or as you say "status" items.

I think oversaturation is good because it prevents the abuses of flip/merch/investing.

I think it's good that there are many new cosmetics, in fact there should be even more, because it means that even players who have played for years will always discover something that they missed or haven't seen before - you're travelling through your usual routes through Runescape then, wow! There's something that's been there for a while but you've never seen it before, I think that's a really cool game experience.

But, I'm wondering why do you want to reduce the variety of cosmetics?

Also, why do you want to give the flip/merch/investors more trinkets to use for leeching wealth from the community?

Plus, what's so great about "status"? What does that mean for you?
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15-Nov-2019 00:59:23

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Kalea Sprite said :
Theos said :
~
In this context, I meant "status". These items start to become perceived as worthless. ~
These cosmetics appear to be presented as fun adornments rather than prestige, or as you say "status" items.

I think oversaturation is good because it prevents the abuses of flip/merch/investing.

I think it's good that there are many new cosmetics, in fact there should be even more, because it means that even players who have played for years will always discover something that they missed or haven't seen before - you're travelling through your usual routes through Runescape then, wow! There's something that's been there for a while but you've never seen it before, I think that's a really cool game experience.

But, I'm wondering why do you want to reduce the variety of cosmetics?

Also, why do you want to give the flip/merch/investors more trinkets to use for leeching wealth from the community?

Plus, what's so great about "status"? What does that mean for you?



But do you ever use any of the worthless tokens in game? The thing is no one cares about them if they are worthless. As for merch/flipping you can just ignore them.
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15-Nov-2019 02:39:33

Theos
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Kalea Sprite said :
Theos said :
~
In this context, I meant "status". These items start to become perceived as worthless. ~
These cosmetics appear to be presented as fun adornments rather than prestige, or as you say "status" items.

I think oversaturation is good because it prevents the abuses of flip/merch/investing.

I think it's good that there are many new cosmetics, in fact there should be even more, because it means that even players who have played for years will always discover something that they missed or haven't seen before - you're travelling through your usual routes through Runescape then, wow! There's something that's been there for a while but you've never seen it before, I think that's a really cool game experience.

But, I'm wondering why do you want to reduce the variety of cosmetics?

Also, why do you want to give the flip/merch/investors more trinkets to use for leeching wealth from the community?

Plus, what's so great about "status"? What does that mean for you?


Just because you don't see value in investing/collecting these items doesn't mean that there shouldn't be respect toward players choosing that as a hobby or even a major component of their gameplay. I don't understand why merchants/players who invest in the market are not considered, or often depicted as doing something that is dishonest. In the real world, many folks make a living off of this. There are many ways to play Runescape; skillers, PvMers, Pkers, Stakers, etc.

I think Jagex should respect that a free market is healthy, and a necessary part of a dynamic economy. Some updates, and folks tend to be biased toward and against merchants. I don't see any negatives of allowing these tokens to gain some value. There's also inconsistency since some tokens are allowed to get massive value such as Zombie Walk which is over max cash, whereas there are tokens reintroduced monthly...
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15-Nov-2019 03:35:48 - Last edited on 15-Nov-2019 03:36:52 by Theos

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