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UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
Jagex also doesn't make money from "interacting with their community" on whatever platform. They do them making games.
Translation: The subscriber count is a completely useless stat because its just a number that the devs try to inflate with certain incentives and in no way indicates how active the community is, since this isn't making them money.
Thanks for the circular discussion we've been having, you could've saved us both a lot of time and effort if you said that from the beginning!
r/Destiny 2
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183k subscribers 2.1k online
r/2007scape
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259k players from the past 14.9k players browsing
Guess who made more money?
Of course it is Destiny 2 since it even beat Fortnite last month.
Of course, "subscriber" to whatever social network/fansite of a game is just some number for popularity contest to certain internet based companies including game developers. Correct that they may be inflated number to make a company "looks good" to certain groups of people. But in reality, $$$ talks and all investors will rather put their money on a game which makes a lot lot lot lot more real $$$ than one just with "more subscribers" to a social network like Reddit.
Let's not forget these "inflated" subscribers numbers on social network sites and such are not always "tricks" developers try to fool the players, quite often certain playerbase does it on their own. For instance, in the case of Destiny 2, their Reddit playerbase doesn't seem to be too excited, however, one may find their Twitch and Youtube playerbase far more active.
Dilbert2001 said :
Jagex also doesn't make money from "interacting with their community" on whatever platform. They do them making games.
Translation: The subscriber count is a completely useless stat because its just a number that the devs try to inflate with certain incentives and in no way indicates how active the community is, since this isn't making them money.
Thanks for the circular discussion we've been having, you could've saved us both a lot of time and effort if you said that from the beginning!
r/Destiny 2
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183k subscribers 2.1k online
r/2007scape
=========
259k players from the past 14.9k players browsing
Guess who made more money?
Of course it is Destiny 2 since it even beat Fortnite last month.
Of course, "subscriber" to whatever social network/fansite of a game is just some number for popularity contest to certain internet based companies including game developers. Correct that they may be inflated number to make a company "looks good" to certain groups of people. But in reality, $$$ talks and all investors will rather put their money on a game which makes a lot lot lot lot more real $$$ than one just with "more subscribers" to a social network like Reddit.
Let's not forget these "inflated" subscribers numbers on social network sites and such are not always "tricks" developers try to fool the players, quite often certain playerbase does it on their own. For instance, in the case of Destiny 2, their Reddit playerbase doesn't seem to be too excited, however, one may find their Twitch and Youtube playerbase far more active.
30-Oct-2018 16:54:53 - Last edited on 30-Oct-2018 17:26:06 by Dilbert2001
UrekMazino
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Sorry, when did we change from having a more active playerbase to making more money? Why do you have to keep trying to move the goalpost to prove your point?
Sorry this thread is about Jagex making money according to OP:
And Jagex is a business. It is always about money to start with. Playerbase is not the same as $$$. Miu tried to bring up the Reddit "subscriber" number and used it as RS3 and OSRS "playerbase" which is obviously wrong.
Furthermore, sorry to further correct you if you want to talk about "playerbase".
Destiny 2 has 10.5 million tracked players with 2.6 million PvE players and 1.3 million PvP active players at the launch of Forsaken. Does OSRS have 10.5 million tracked players on any specific date?
https://gamingbolt.com/destiny-2-population-hits-2-6-million-for-pve-1-3-million-for-pvp
Sorry, when did we change from having a more active playerbase to making more money? Why do you have to keep trying to move the goalpost to prove your point?
Sorry this thread is about Jagex making money according to OP:
"TH was introduced with the removal of bots to replace the revenue stream, but seeing JAGEX more profitable than ever is it really needed anymore? Can revenue from bonds for membership replace the major negative impact MTX has on the game.
What would be the positives? Well, first and foremost nothing really matters in RS anymore the amount of cosmetic crap and bonus XP handed out makes many achievments not really achievments, imho. Makes the game feel artificial and all about the money $$$. Just look at the bustling community osrs has."
What would be the positives? Well, first and foremost nothing really matters in RS anymore the amount of cosmetic crap and bonus XP handed out makes many achievments not really achievments, imho. Makes the game feel artificial and all about the money $$$. Just look at the bustling community osrs has."
And Jagex is a business. It is always about money to start with. Playerbase is not the same as $$$. Miu tried to bring up the Reddit "subscriber" number and used it as RS3 and OSRS "playerbase" which is obviously wrong.
Furthermore, sorry to further correct you if you want to talk about "playerbase".
Destiny 2 has 10.5 million tracked players with 2.6 million PvE players and 1.3 million PvP active players at the launch of Forsaken. Does OSRS have 10.5 million tracked players on any specific date?
https://gamingbolt.com/destiny-2-population-hits-2-6-million-for-pve-1-3-million-for-pvp
31-Oct-2018 02:10:27 - Last edited on 31-Oct-2018 02:34:36 by Dilbert2001
UrekMazino
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Yea but that wasn't the problem in your statement that I was addressing, if that's what you want to talk about instead, then ok, I'm out.
Told you again, my "statement" was meant to address to Miu's false claim that Reddit "subscribers" have anything to do with Jagex's actual playerbase and profits on Page 73, Post3. I even told him that was not what OP wanted to discuss way way back from his very 1st post.
You just jumped in, but again it is still the same thing... Reddit or whatever fansite/social network "subscriber" numbers are not related to Jagex's own players, let alone profits, and therefore has no meaning to why TH should or should not be removed.
Yea but that wasn't the problem in your statement that I was addressing, if that's what you want to talk about instead, then ok, I'm out.
Told you again, my "statement" was meant to address to Miu's false claim that Reddit "subscribers" have anything to do with Jagex's actual playerbase and profits on Page 73, Post3. I even told him that was not what OP wanted to discuss way way back from his very 1st post.
You just jumped in, but again it is still the same thing... Reddit or whatever fansite/social network "subscriber" numbers are not related to Jagex's own players, let alone profits, and therefore has no meaning to why TH should or should not be removed.
31-Oct-2018 16:00:31
Dilbert2001
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Told you again, my "statement" was meant to address to Miu's false claim that Reddit "subscribers" have anything to do with Jagex's actual playerbase and profits on Page 73, Post3. I even told him that was not what OP wanted to discuss way way back from his very 1st post.
You just jumped in, but again it is still the same thing... Reddit or whatever fansite/social network "subscriber" numbers are not related to Jagex's own players, let alone profits, and therefore has no meaning to why TH should or should not be removed.
We've already gone over this. My claim wasn't that Reddit subscribers mean that OSRS has a higher playerbase. The playerbase numbers itself do, and the OSRS is merely supporting evidence. It's not the claim itself. Please don't misrepresent what I've said, and then make a false argument against it.
Miu said :
There's nothing unofficial about the numbers at the top of the screen, dilbert.
First you say that the numbers are somehow "fake" or "unofficial." Then once proven, you say that it doesn't represent the total number of runescape subscribers, which is about 765k according to the quarterly. Then Jagex releases the subscriber numbers for OSRS, which is 550k.
Then you compare seasonals, not even knowing what those highscores represent in OSRS, which is a variant of deadman mode which isn't even active at the moment.
Now what? You're not convinced OSRS is more popular because they didn't do enough elite clue scrolls? Oh, but OSRS did more easy clue scrolls than RS3, so let's not mention that.
I can only assume this is a deliberate misrepresentation in bad faith.
Told you again, my "statement" was meant to address to Miu's false claim that Reddit "subscribers" have anything to do with Jagex's actual playerbase and profits on Page 73, Post3. I even told him that was not what OP wanted to discuss way way back from his very 1st post.
You just jumped in, but again it is still the same thing... Reddit or whatever fansite/social network "subscriber" numbers are not related to Jagex's own players, let alone profits, and therefore has no meaning to why TH should or should not be removed.
We've already gone over this. My claim wasn't that Reddit subscribers mean that OSRS has a higher playerbase. The playerbase numbers itself do, and the OSRS is merely supporting evidence. It's not the claim itself. Please don't misrepresent what I've said, and then make a false argument against it.
Miu said :
There's nothing unofficial about the numbers at the top of the screen, dilbert.
First you say that the numbers are somehow "fake" or "unofficial." Then once proven, you say that it doesn't represent the total number of runescape subscribers, which is about 765k according to the quarterly. Then Jagex releases the subscriber numbers for OSRS, which is 550k.
Then you compare seasonals, not even knowing what those highscores represent in OSRS, which is a variant of deadman mode which isn't even active at the moment.
Now what? You're not convinced OSRS is more popular because they didn't do enough elite clue scrolls? Oh, but OSRS did more easy clue scrolls than RS3, so let's not mention that.
I can only assume this is a deliberate misrepresentation in bad faith.
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