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UrekMazino
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Funny how they can make that much money and still produce subpar games at best.

BTW you are still wrong to say that my statement was incorrect, doesn't matter if you try to change the subject, whether its to FIFA 18 or FIFA 19's sales relative to other games in UK.
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08-Oct-2018 13:32:10

Dilbert2001
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Runelower said :

TH was introduced with the removal of bots to replace the revenue stream, but seeing JAGEX more profitable than ever is it really needed anymore? Can revenue from bonds for membership replace the major negative impact MTX has on the game.


If is official that revenue from Bonds (note: Bonds for membership + TH keys + Runecoins combined, not just Bonds for membership) is only 45% of Jagex 2017 total MTX revenue. Bonds for memberships definitely can't replace the major "negative impact" MTX has on the game.

http://file.finance.sina.com.cn/211.154.219.97:9494/MRGG/CNSESH_STOCK/2018/2018-6/2018-06-02/4491886.PDF

08-Oct-2018 15:17:36

Nisshoku
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IMHO,

Remove TH. Keeping it makes RS3 just another P2W game that people play and spend thousands to get to max levels. When a new player can join up, pay a ton of money for keys to get lamps, high value items and stars etc, it can honestly take a few months to get your first 99 skill.

I've given up on RS3 cause all the new bonus XP and whatnot has taken the fun of the grind away. The whole fun of Runescape came from spending hours skilling and killing, so that you could compete and show off to your friends. If you were one of those players with a skill cape, you were the envy of many players. Now the game is pretty much handing players skill capes like they were dropped from a highway man. Get rid of TH, add new content, and bring it back to actually working for max skills.

RS3 has actually seen a decrease in players just because of TH itself and it's OPness in skilling and money making. A lot have quit RS altogether, and a lot have all moved down to OSRS, even more with OSRS being F2P and Member accessible. Plus with mobile OSRS a few weeks out, even more people might leave the main game to play here.

Just looking at the main page of RS3 and OSRS, the players online are around the same amount, give or take a few thousand players. This is all just my opinion, no one has to take it to heart. Me being nostalgic, 07' was imo the best time for Runescape. Back when it was skilling, playing with friends, PVPing and minigames with thousands of players for the simple fun that stole hours upon hours of our lives.

With TH, there's too much gold being put into the game, which kills player based markets like the ge with inflated prices. 2.1b for Phat? ridiculous lol. And too much bonus xp to boot. When skilling, bonus XP becomes pretty much XP doubling. I have enough bonus in some skills to get from 1-99 in half the time it would normally take. Mining itself I have enough to half the needed xp from 83 to 200m xp.

TH will imo, be the eventual death of RS3.

09-Oct-2018 16:29:34

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Nisshoku said :
Just looking at the main page of RS3 and OSRS, the players online are around the same amount, give or take a few thousand players.

Just wanted to make sure if you didn't know: the player counter on RS3's website includes both RS3 and OSRS players currently online, not just RS3. OSRS website's player counter only shows OSRS players online, so to get the player count for RS3, subtract the number on the OSRS website from the number on the RS3 website.
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09-Oct-2018 16:59:30

Dilbert2001
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Those who still live in the fantasy but not real world should realize current players online doesn't represent total players. Mod Rowley said it the best here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/92433u/a_solid_positive_jmod_response_to_the_state_of/

RS3 and OSRS membership is just one membership. RS3 and OSRS members are the same members who paid for and can play in both RS3 and OSRS. Jagex make the same amount of money from subscription regardless their players play RS3, OSRS, both or none.

More factual data from RS3 Hiscores also shows a very heathly active and unique player pattern. For instance, just from the one month since Runescores appeared on Hiscores, almost 400k players active and unique players have obviously played in RS3. And don't forget they are only players with >500 Runescores. There are a lot more with <500 Runescores but not showing in the Hiscores yet.

Matt Casey also said 90% of the players who actually play in RS3 enjoy the game despite of the MTX. That's the fact. :D

09-Oct-2018 17:05:54

dewittejager
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remove TH solomon store is just fine bonds and membership are the way to pay for this game. introducing runescape to steam also is a way to make more money because lots of people dont know about the game anymore soon as mobile hits it will be more know but on pc it needs to be in the windows store + steam store as a f2p game to introduce more players to the game once more.

12-Oct-2018 11:04:46

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
And don't forget they are only players with >500 Runescores. There are a lot more with <500 Runescores but not showing in the Hiscores yet.

Runescore is so easy to get, any raf alt can get 500 runescore in a day.

Dilbert2001 said :
Matt Casey also said 90% of the players who actually play in RS3 enjoy the game despite of the MTX. That's the fact. :D

Keyword: despite. Pretty sad that it needs to be worded that way because it means they are acknowledging that MTX is negatively impacting gameplay experience even if its not enough to ruin it for most.
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13-Oct-2018 08:34:59

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
And don't forget they are only players with >500 Runescores. There are a lot more with <500 Runescores but not showing in the Hiscores yet.

Runescore is so easy to get, any raf alt can get 500 runescore in a day.

Dilbert2001 said :
Matt Casey also said 90% of the players who actually play in RS3 enjoy the game despite of the MTX. That's the fact. :D

Keyword: despite. Pretty sad that it needs to be worded that way because it means they are acknowledging that MTX is negatively impacting gameplay experience even if its not enough to ruin it for most.


Alts are still players. And most runescore achievements can't be botted, let alone be botted to get 500 runescaores in one day. :D

MTX Negatively affecting gameplay? How can the 90% of all players in the game enjoy the game daily when MTX is "negatively affecting gameplay"? I guess they must enjoy negative gameplay then. :D :D :D

14-Oct-2018 01:04:29

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
Alts are still players. And most runescore achievements can't be botted, let alone be botted to get 500 runescaores in one day.

Every 10 levels in each skill gives 5 runescores and skills can be botted, might wanna double check next time before posting.

Dilbert2001 said :
MTX Negatively affecting gameplay? How can the 90% of all players in the game enjoy the game daily when MTX is "negatively affecting gameplay"? I guess they must enjoy negative gameplay then.

Some idiot at work made a mistake today and caused you to have to work overtime, does that make your whole life completely miserable?
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15-Oct-2018 08:08:30

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Alts are still players. And most runescore achievements can't be botted, let alone be botted to get 500 runescaores in one day.

Every 10 levels in each skill gives 5 runescores and skills can be botted, might wanna double check next time before posting.

Dilbert2001 said :
MTX Negatively affecting gameplay? How can the 90% of all players in the game enjoy the game daily when MTX is "negatively affecting gameplay"? I guess they must enjoy negative gameplay then.

Some idiot at work made a mistake today and caused you to have to work overtime, does that make your whole life completely miserable?


How many Runescore achievements are solely based on levels? What a petty percentage! You may also want to check out Runescores more carefully. There are 300k+ players with about 1300 Runescores. Even if all of them got every score from skill level, they would have to be level 99 in all skills. Can all these 300k players "botted" to 99 in all skills in one day? :D :D :D

The 90% players who are happy don't care and most likely don't work with the petty 10% who don't enjoy Runescape but still play and post. Who care if they "work overtime". The 90% happy ones come to play Runescape, not to "work". :D :D :D

15-Oct-2018 23:31:37

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