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Dilbert2001
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Lord Bucket said :
"TH is bringing in great money for Jagex just as loot boxes are brining in great money for the video game industry. That's why you see the business enjoying this kind of loot box success and keep sharing the fun with more players."

Moment of silence for my neighbors who cannot enjoy some of that lootbox success, and the sharing of its fun :( Sucks to be a player in Belgium.


What? It certainly doesn't "suck" to be a Runescape player in Belgium. :D :D :D :D :D :D

05-Sep-2018 16:22:22

Lord Bucket

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Dilbert2001 said :
Lord Bucket said :
"TH is bringing in great money for Jagex just as loot boxes are brining in great money for the video game industry. That's why you see the business enjoying this kind of loot box success and keep sharing the fun with more players."

Moment of silence for my neighbors who cannot enjoy some of that lootbox success, and the sharing of its fun :( Sucks to be a player in Belgium.


What? It certainly doesn't "suck" to be a Runescape player in Belgium. :D :D :D :D :D :D


That's not what I said, and that's not what you said. You mentioned "the video game industry" and "the business", and "the video game industry" is under a bit of a fire in regards to lootboxes at the moment. Enough so that even Shadow of War has had them removed. They wouldn't do that if they were simply "sharing the fun with other players". They had to rebalance the game after removing this "optional content".


Tip: don't put an obnoxious amount of smileys in your replies, it's hard to take someone serious when they do. Makes it appear more as if you're trolling, and I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Edit: Forgot to add "videogame" to "the industry".
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05-Sep-2018 17:14:48 - Last edited on 05-Sep-2018 17:16:13 by Lord Bucket

Dilbert2001
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Lord Bucket said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Lord Bucket said :
"TH is bringing in great money for Jagex just as loot boxes are brining in great money for the video game industry. That's why you see the business enjoying this kind of loot box success and keep sharing the fun with more players."

Moment of silence for my neighbors who cannot enjoy some of that lootbox success, and the sharing of its fun :( Sucks to be a player in Belgium.


What? It certainly doesn't "suck" to be a Runescape player in Belgium. :D :D :D :D :D :D


That's not what I said, and that's not what you said. You mentioned "the video game industry" and "the business", and "the video game industry" is under a bit of a fire in regards to lootboxes at the moment. Enough so that even Shadow of War has had them removed. They wouldn't do that if they were simply "sharing the fun with other players". They had to rebalance the game after removing this "optional content".


Tip: don't put an obnoxious amount of smileys in your replies, it's hard to take someone serious when they do. Makes it appear more as if you're trolling, and I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Edit: Forgot to add "videogame" to "the industry".


Tips: If you don't know what the entire video game industry is doing with TH kind of loot boxes and you don't see Elite Skilling Outfits is the current promotion in Runescape, it makes it more as if you're trolling, and I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Extra tip in case if you missed it:

The latest UKIE stand in Gamescom 2018 shows you how happy they are with Loot Boxes:

"SPONSORS...UK Drinks Reception (Jagex)...HookALootbox(Hirez)


Now, that's what the video game INDUSTRY tells you.

05-Sep-2018 17:39:06 - Last edited on 05-Sep-2018 17:42:50 by Dilbert2001

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Tips: If you don't know what the entire video game industry is doing with TH kind of loot boxes and you don't see Elite Skilling Outfits is the current promotion in Runescape, it makes it more as if you're trolling, and I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.


No, I do not see "Elite Skilling Outfits" as the current promotion as it's not mentioned on the homepage. Which is odd, as they usually are mentioned on there. Can't fault me for that one ;)

Why can't people "earn" the skilling outfits as well, like the recent farming outfit:

"There is also the brand new ‘Elite Farmers Outfit’. This is the first Elite Skilling Outfit that is not from Treasure Hunter and is gained in-game. Whoop!"

See? That's good! This should be encouraged. Participating in a 'game of chance' in order to obtain pieces of an outfit should not.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "th kind of lootboxes" as every lootbox is like treasure hunter: You've a chance to unlock something, completely random, and likely not what you were after. Jagex steps this up by telling you "Your next key could get you [row of amazing items]". That's literally playing into the gambler, incentivizing them to continue. Like the women in casinos egging you on: "aww, you're so close!" They want you to continue.

Jagex always warns you about the "if it's too good to be true, it probably is", yet they've no qualms about doing this themselves. Showing that 200M in your face, which is the same way a scammer warms up to its victim, using the player's greed against them.
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05-Sep-2018 18:21:42

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"The latest UKIE stand in Gamescom 2018 shows you how happy they are with Loot Boxes:

"SPONSORS...UK Drinks Reception (Jagex)...HookALootbox(Hirez)

Do you also remember when Hirez tried to implement lootboxes in Paladins? They ended up removing them due to the backlash they've received.

Edit: UKIE also does not agree that lootboxes are gambling: "Ukie, the video industry trade organization for the United Kingdom, asserted its stance that loot boxes do not constitute gambling and are "already covered by and fully compliant with existing relevant UK regulations".
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05-Sep-2018 18:27:07 - Last edited on 05-Sep-2018 18:42:55 by Lord Bucket

Dilbert2001
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Lord Bucket said :
"The latest UKIE stand in Gamescom 2018 shows you how happy they are with Loot Boxes:

"SPONSORS...UK Drinks Reception (Jagex)...HookALootbox(Hirez)

Do you also remember when Hirez tried to implement lootboxes in Paladins? They ended up removing them due to the backlash they've received.


I am simply telling you that UKIE embraces Loot Box obviously. And that's the INDUSTRY speaking, not just one game or one company

BTW, Treasure Chests are still in Paladins. So are different kinds of loot boxes still in different Hi-Rez games. :)

05-Sep-2018 18:39:43

Lord Bucket

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Dilbert2001 said :
Lord Bucket said :
"The latest UKIE stand in Gamescom 2018 shows you how happy they are with Loot Boxes:

"SPONSORS...UK Drinks Reception (Jagex)...HookALootbox(Hirez)

Do you also remember when Hirez tried to implement lootboxes in Paladins? They ended up removing them due to the backlash they've received.


I am simply telling you that UKIE embraces Loot Box obviously. And that's the INDUSTRY speaking, not just one game or one company

BTW, Treasure Chests are still in Paladins. So are different kinds of loot boxes still in different Hi-Rez games. :)


No, I disagree with that. UKIE is part of the industry, yes. But it's not THE industry.
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05-Sep-2018 18:46:25

Dilbert2001
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Lord Bucket said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Lord Bucket said :
"The latest UKIE stand in Gamescom 2018 shows you how happy they are with Loot Boxes:

"SPONSORS...UK Drinks Reception (Jagex)...HookALootbox(Hirez)

Do you also remember when Hirez tried to implement lootboxes in Paladins? They ended up removing them due to the backlash they've received.


I am simply telling you that UKIE embraces Loot Box obviously. And that's the INDUSTRY speaking, not just one game or one company

BTW, Treasure Chests are still in Paladins. So are different kinds of loot boxes still in different Hi-Rez games. :)


No, I disagree with that. UKIE is part of the industry, yes. But it's not THE industry.


More on the INDUSTRY part for you to disagree with:

"ESA: We can't go to the "lowest common denominator of government" on loot boxes"


https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-05-25-esa-we-cant-go-to-the-lowest-common-denominator-of-government-on-loot-boxes

Why don't you show us where the video game "industry" shows they are against loot boxes? But first you better tell us where do you find this "industry" first. :D

05-Sep-2018 18:53:52

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"Why don't you show us where the video game "industry" shows they are against loot boxes? But first you better tell us where do you find this "industry" first. :D "

According to you, UKIE is the industry speaking, so you should already know what I meant with this "industry" ;) But again, the industry consists of more than just UKIE.

Anyways, it's been fun :) Have a good night/day
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05-Sep-2018 20:54:03

Dilbert2001
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Lord Bucket said :
"Why don't you show us where the video game "industry" shows they are against loot boxes? But first you better tell us where do you find this "industry" first. :D "

According to you, UKIE is the industry speaking, so you should already know what I meant with this "industry" ;) But again, the industry consists of more than just UKIE.

Anyways, it's been fun :) Have a good night/day


What's the fun? You have yet to even put up a word from your so called "industry" that's against loot boxes.

The fact is we should all know the video game industry is all for not just loot boxes but all kinds of MTX.

In case if you are still in the dark, PEGI is going to implement the same in-game purchase label by the end of this year that ESRB mentioned but have yet to act on. What it means is loot boxes are going to be treated like all the other in-game purchases according to the industry's rating standard. Games with loot boxes are not different in ratings than games with paid expansions, music track downloads, cosmetic skins, subscription, etc. :D

05-Sep-2018 21:01:31

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