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Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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Hmm... Jagex Partners seem to be thinking this other way:

"Jagex Partners will offer publishing and operational services tailored specifically to the needs of third-party studios, it said. Partner studios can also integrate their games with Jagex’s proprietary tech platform and live operations ecosystem, which includes player account management and authentication, monetization, virtual currency management , distribution, hosting, and player insight tools."


https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/jagex-partners-announced-1202905952/

Jagex is inviting more Partners to monetize their games alongside Runescape. :D

16-Aug-2018 17:31:15

Cayleigh
Sep Member 2021

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The problem with removing Th at this point in the game is that it's been in the game far too long.

Yes that includes the SoF too, they've taken their tole on the game and have already given an unfair advantage to many players, for example allowing famous youtuber A Friend to max with ease.

Many others may have also done this.

Meaning any new players will be at a disadvantage.

No support.

21-Aug-2018 20:08:03

Sharp-shin

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Cayleigh said :
The problem with removing Th at this point in the game is that it's been in the game far too long.

Yes that includes the SoF too, they've taken their tole on the game and have already given an unfair advantage to many players, for example allowing famous youtuber A Friend to max with ease.

Many others may have also done this.

Meaning any new players will be at a disadvantage.

No support.
That's a terrible excuse to prevent preserving the long term health of the game; sure, it might annoy some that others were able to get an advantage, but it'll be worse if the damaging effect doesn't stop, and those people need to understand that. Just how big of an advantage it is can also be controlled by how the game is developer afterwards.

And if you think I'm saying this because it'd benefit me, let me clarify: Jagex has done and continues to do changes like this (mostly on OSRS but occasionally on RS3 too). For example, before I started playing OSRS, it was possible for a very long time to get 99 magic very cheaply, whilst you were sleeping/in school/at work irl, by splashing for several hours in a row, because the game wouldn't kick you out for hours as long as you were performing any actions like that, and splashing was an automated process (but didn't require botting). They finally changed it so that even if you were doing that to keep yourself logged in past the normal 5-minute inactivity kick, you'd still get automatically logged out after 10 minutes if you didn't interact with the game physically (clicking/pressing something), putting an end to the sleeping training and at minimum requiring supervising if training at school/work.

On a personal level, did I feel bad about missing out on that? Sure, a little bit. But I'm not gonna quit or request it to be reversed, because it's healthier for the game in the long term to not have that.

(And btw, all A Friend's accounts were permabanned recently.)
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25-Aug-2018 13:21:24

Miu

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Cayleigh said :
The problem with removing Th at this point in the game is that it's been in the game far too long.

Yes that includes the SoF too, they've taken their tole on the game and have already given an unfair advantage to many players, for example allowing famous youtuber A Friend to max with ease.

Many others may have also done this.

Meaning any new players will be at a disadvantage.

No support.

And how long were rat pits in the game before they were removed? How about that halloween event that ended up being some of the fastest XP in the game, why aren't you complaining about new players being disadvantaged since that's no longer around? If you acknowledge it's an unfair advantage, then it only makes sense to get rid of it.

Besides, new players at a disadvantage is far better than a lack of new players at all.
Don't forget – RuneScape members get TWO free spins a day instead of the usual one!

25-Aug-2018 17:18:14

Draco Burnz
Dec Member 2011

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Cayleigh said :
The problem with removing Th at this point in the game is that it's been in the game far too long.

Yes that includes the SoF too, they've taken their tole on the game and have already given an unfair advantage to many players, for example allowing famous youtuber A Friend to max with ease.

Many others may have also done this.

Meaning any new players will be at a disadvantage.

No support.

Pretty much.

Miu said :
And how long were rat pits in the game before they were removed?

You're pretty much comparing apples to oranges at this point.

Miu said :
f you acknowledge it's an unfair advantage, then it only makes sense to get rid of it.


Just because something unfair, isnt a reason to remove it.

Same could be said about literally anything.

Example, IMO comp cape is unfair so it should be removed right with your logic?
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25-Aug-2018 19:02:50 - Last edited on 25-Aug-2018 19:04:36 by Draco Burnz

Miu

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Draco Burnz said :
Example, IMO comp cape is unfair so it should be removed right with your logic? Pay attention to context, we're talking in terms of unfair advantages. If comp cape was only available for a limited time, then you might have a point.
But as you yourself stated:
Draco Burnz said :
You're pretty much comparing apples to oranges at this point.

Anyway the intention was that the person I originally quoted acknowledged it as a problem, but felt it had to stay just because it's been around too long. If the game is bleeding, are you just going to let it continue to do so, or do you stauch the flow?
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25-Aug-2018 22:46:23

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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Veterans already have many many many more unfair advantages over newer players already. There are always things in the Loyalty Point shop that new players won't get before they play the game for years. There are also discontinued and rare items new players won't get now or ever.

Even the newest players who only use their free daily keys, they still have the chance to get everything a Bill Gates who buys 9000 million TH keys with real money can get, only that their chance is lower.

Video games are not always fair to all players. They give "unfair advantages" to players just like real world events all give "unfair advantages" to real world people. Jagex is a real world business. They can give "unfair advantages" to customers who pay (TH key buyers, veterans etc) just like McDonald's can give "unfair advantages" to customers who buy more Happy Meals. :D

TH is bringing in great money for Jagex just as loot boxes are brining in great money for the video game industry. That's why you see the business enjoying this kind of loot box success and keep sharing the fun with more players.

The latest UKIE stand in Gamescom 2018 shows you how happy they are with Loot Boxes:

"SPONSORS...UK Drinks Reception (Jagex), UK Game of the Show (Little Big PR), Morning Pastries (Pole to Win), Juice Bar (Take Off), Coffee & compostable cups (Amiqus), Ice Cream (OPM), Candy Floss (Playstack),
Hook a loot box
(HiRez), Drinks coasters (Revolution)"



https://ukie.org.uk/event/2018/08/21/uk-stand-gamescom-2018

That's right! UKIE loves Loot Boxes and they know you are hooked too. And don't forget leading off the UKIE Gamescom 2018 Sponsors this year is your beloved Jagex. :D

Have fun with your TH and other loot boxes. UKIE and the video game industry know you love them too. :D :D :D

26-Aug-2018 17:38:55 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2018 21:21:52 by Dilbert2001

Lord Bucket

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"TH is bringing in great money for Jagex just as loot boxes are brining in great money for the video game industry. That's why you see the business enjoying this kind of loot box success and keep sharing the fun with more players."

Moment of silence for my neighbors who cannot enjoy some of that lootbox success, and the sharing of its fun :( Sucks to be a player in Belgium. What kind of MTX do
YOU
want to see in OSRS?
Click here to post your suggestions

05-Sep-2018 15:26:51

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