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Sharp-shin

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If the marketing team analyzed their internal data and thought that silently manipulating the odds of TH would increase their profits, they absolutely would do so, since how would anyone find out that they've done so? It'd either require an employee to leak it (illegally too most likely by the employee breaching their contract, and they'd still have to give proof as well), or a very large and detailed sample size from multiple players to solidly prove it, otherwise the marketing team could easily disregard the complaints with "maybe you just got lucky" (or unlucky, depends on the context), call it a case of confirmation bias and escape unscathed. A big enough sample size, let's say dozens of thousands of keys, would already be a big obstacle in itself as it's very expensive, let alone needing multiple people to do the same.

So, like they say about fire, Jagex is a good servant but a bad master; they can provide a good service through developing Runescape, but letting them do as they please will hurt all the players sooner or later, provided that the players don't quit too soon to find out how.

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4A6F6B6B75 said :
Sharp-shin said :
@Jokku, when you have time and we're both online, could you PM me regarding this thread please? I have something that I'd prefer to handle privately.

Sure 8)
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16-Dec-2018 19:37:39 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2018 19:41:10 by Sharp-shin

Whatusaytome
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Is your only concern about them being capable of influencing what each or any individual player gains from TH? You don't think for a second that there's too many players for them to do things manually, or that they don't have a detailed system in place?

And even more so, you call it a gamble, when the only gamble is what you will win, instead of If you would win. They don't pick people individually and say, hey this person should win 200m and everybody else for the hour should get a small star. It is RNG spin with a guaranteed win.

It is not a gamble and it is not against any law for them to do it. They do not intervene on any special player regardless of who it is, and regardless of how difficult it would be to prove. That would be illegal, or at least I'd hope it is.

You dislike TH because you aren't guaranteed that current rare prize even when you pay for keys. Understandable, but TH is meant to be RNG, and you know this. Everybody who buys them knows this, but they don't understand they might be unlucky and end up poorly spending. But they get prizes regardless, which is what is promised. They show you every prize you can possibly win on each roll before you spin to help you decide if you should use Ice to block useless prizes. TH isn't wrong.

I do think Solomon's should be used for all cosmetics and bonus outfits, instead of how they put Skilling outfits on TH, they could've sold them on Solomon's either individually or as sets for runecoin. But it's not wrong for them to do it as they have been.

Honestly if you think they influence individual outcomes on TH and override RNG, then I say they do the same for monster drops. Which is what you should worry about instead. Giving anything rare, like a HSR to youtubers and streamers, but not me, I very rarely get rare drops (shocking!), but I see others getting them. So should I not trust Jagex either?
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16-Dec-2018 20:19:50

Draco Burnz
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4A6F6B6B75 said :
Don't worry! There's no need to lock them. Those threads could be moved to another section! Problem solved!

Yet the forum section itself still remains.

Plus i dont think mods would want to move hundreds of threads just because ppl want something they cant have.
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16-Dec-2018 20:20:00

Kalea Sprite

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Whatusaytome said :
Honestly if you think they influence individual outcomes on TH and override RNG, then I say they do the same for monster drops. Which is what you should worry about instead. Giving anything rare, like a HSR to youtubers and streamers, but not me, I very rarely get rare drops (shocking!), but I see others getting them. So should I not trust Jagex either?
Ya, he seems to be stretching some kind of fake conspiracy so I don't believe him because he's mad and jealous that we have better and stronger reasons for supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, we're more cheerful and fun, and we trust Jagex to do the right thing! :D

So, it's time to refresh the supply of Partyhats because increasing the supply of Partyhats is like increasing the supply of the good old days and we can all share in the cheerfulness of the classic Runescape spirit with all the awesome updates of the present and the additional bonus is that Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help Jagex increase their sales so they can hire more people to maintain and create more awesome updates for the future!

What good are Partyhats if there is no game to adventure in?

This is why the Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is an awesome idea because it helps Jagex secure the funding to support, maintain and continue to update and develop the game for everyone to enjoy! :D 'o.0'
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16-Dec-2018 21:54:36 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2018 22:00:14 by Kalea Sprite

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It's negative because then players won't buy
as many
bonds to fund their party hat. The scammers and lurers will be losing out on more GP as well when they hack and steal accounts. Best wishes to all.
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22-Dec-2018 10:50:36 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2018 10:56:37 by KILLpavlosog

Whatusaytome
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KILLpavlosog said :
It's negative because then players won't buy
as many
bonds to fund their party hat. The scammers and lurers will be losing out on more GP as well when they hack and steal accounts. hardly anybody buys bonds now for saving towards a partyhat. No matter what kind of new partyhat gets added, it will mean more sales towards getting it. Even if the new Partyhats are the same as ones that already exist. Just like Rainbows End coming back 15 times, it still gets sales for people wanting a Cape or Halo.

People aren't going to buy bonds to save for their blue now, because that's a waste of thousands of real dollars for an unstable game item. And it's a waste of several hundreds in not thousands for the cheapest. Lower the price reasonably by scarcely increasing the amount available and keep them overall rare. More people will aim for them.

If a scammer and lurer loses out on gp, I call that a success. And what's the deal about hacking? They can't suddenly hack more people just because Partyhats make a comeback.
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22-Dec-2018 16:23:34

Kalea Sprite

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KILLpavlosog said :
It's negative because then players won't buy
as many
bonds to fund their party hat. The scammers and lurers will be losing out on more GP as well when they hack and steal accounts. You're joking about the scammers and lurers losing, those guys should be banned, right? :P

But, yes players won't need to buy as many bonds to fund their party hat and this is actually a positive thing because it means that many more people will be able to afford and enjoy the party hats.

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help Jagex strengthen their funding for the future and increase the fun for everyone and, shut down the scammers.

By increasing the supply of partyhats, Jagex will increase their chance to profit because it would become more affordable for many more people to enjoy. That means that the volume of their sales would increase and that means more profit.

For example, if only one person would buy an item for $1,000, sales would be $1,000.

But if a hundred people would by the item for $100, sales would be $10,000.

So, reducing the price actually increases sales in this example by $9,000!

You can see this everywhere, selling more units at a cheaper price increases profits because more units are sold.

And, it also increases the amount of people that may enjoy the fun of party hat parties! :D

So, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter helps Jagex strengthen funding for hiring more people to develop awesome updates and, more people will be able to enjoy the cheerful Partyhat parties and, the bonus of nerfing scammers will increase the fun for everyone! :D

Happy Holidays! :D 'o.0'
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22-Dec-2018 16:45:53

Kalea Sprite

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Whatusaytome said :
No matter what kind of new partyhat gets added, it will mean more sales towards getting it. Even if the new Partyhats are the same as ones that already exist. Just like Rainbows End coming back 15 times, it still gets sales for people wanting a Cape or Halo.

Whatusaytome nailed it again!

Put all the Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, the old the new and original crackers too!

Then we can all share in the fun of snapping the crackers and winning the original and new Partyhats and everyone will once again party with the Partyhats! :D

Super Support Bumparoo Woo-Hoo! :D 'o.0'
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27-Dec-2018 18:02:48 - Last edited on 27-Dec-2018 18:04:08 by Kalea Sprite

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