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DiskOfReturn said :
1. The drop rate should be available to everyone at all times, even if they get nerfed/buffed.

Won't happen if Jagex can decide voluntarily. There's a reason why they haven't revealed any of the drop rates in TH: having access to that kind of information allows the players to make more educated decisions, like calculating the average # of keys to win a specific prize. Of course it's not perfect since RNG is involved, but it's a lot better than having no numbers at all.

There's also the "get more keys now and your prize could be <displays 3 super rares>" marketing, which would be a lot less successful if it showed the true drop rates, e.g. 0.00001% chance to win 200m (probably higher than that but you should get the point).


DiskOfReturn said :
3. One should not be able to "buy" a p hat with real money, so no guaranteed wins on X spins.

Whether or not it'd be guaranteed changes nothing: if you can get a partyhat with real money, you can buy one with real money. It's simply predatory if it's random.


DiskOfReturn said :
5. Make sure old prices wont crash to the ground. Its alright and only logic if they drop a little but they cant be made worthless for obvious reasons. So perhaps different colours or just make them really rare to obtain (less likely then the 200m and perhaps make it so you need to collect 5-10 party hat pieces before you are able to make the party hat. Basically you would need to spend a lifetime of keys in order to unlock all the pieces. Since you can get 1 blue party hat piece and on your next super super super rare roll you might receive a purple party hat piece.)

It doesn't matter how rare you make them: a rerelease would cause dramatic price drops. Once something loses its discontinuity status, the historical value goes *poof*.
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16-Dec-2018 15:24:13

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To add to the above (ran out of space): different colors would be fine (genuinely different colors that is, not deceptive attempts to use a slightly different hex color code for example), but not through Treasure Hunter. TH is a predatory gambling machine that is going to face regulations in the future eventually, so both for future proofing and for the better of consumers, something like Solomon's store would be a much better option to put them to. In-game achievements even better.

EDIT:

@Jokku, when you have time and we're both online, could you PM me regarding this thread please? I have something that I'd prefer to handle privately.
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16-Dec-2018 15:24:19 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2018 15:33:11 by Sharp-shin

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Well the whole qoute thing worked out great. :/

I don't trust Jagex, imo Jagex uses ways to manipulate prices themselfs. I wouldn't want Jagex to be in control of the party hat market to be honest. Whenever they like they could buff the drop rate without anyone knowing. NO TY
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16-Dec-2018 16:54:44 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2018 16:56:40 by DiskOfReturn

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DiskOfReturn said :
Well the whole qoute thing worked out great. :/

I don't trust Jagex, imo Jagex uses ways to manipulate prices themselfs. I wouldn't want Jagex to be in control of the party hat market to be honest. Whenever they like they could buff the drop rate without anyone knowing. NO TY
weren't you the one who said partial support under strict rules? I personally don't mind those points you made in the last post, and I think you're at least reasonable.

Don't mind Blackwing, he won't ever agree with anything to do with TH because he thinks the only function of it is exploiting people for money for a small chance to get useless things. Where I think they will be buying keys for the currently available prizes regardless.

Just don't worry about him, because in my opinion, that Historical Value is not worth protecting on Partyhats at this point, where the entire partyhat market is entirely under the control of overpowered, experienced traders. Anybody who thinks that market isn't overpowered hasn't watched the forum activity in Item Discussion's Discontinued Items status, or the Discontinued Items marketplace, which if you'd notice, are conveniently located side by side now.

The point is to lower the price reasonably and add new supplies to a market that's dwindled down to artificially generated activity, with the rare occurrence that somebody new comes into it.

I don't care if it's the same odds as the 200m, or if it's harder. Like I said earlier about using a new gem, or the purple gem. I support the life changing lottery even if it's miniscule odds. Not gonna lie, it'd be nice to get the 200m myself, but my gameplay would barely be affected if I won it. It might genuinely change newer people and that's cool, but that's the limit to our lottery in this day and age.
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16-Dec-2018 17:42:19

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Draco Burnz said :
Kalea Sprite said :
Actually, the topic is about supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and you to derail the subject into a discussion about updating the forums which they do regularly.

Yes and if they did this, those threads would have to be locked.

So its very much in-tune with the topic.
So you're admitting that you want to derail the topic by talking about maintaining the forums and then claim it's on topic because they regularly maintain the forums which means your point isn't in-tune with the topic, your point is off-topic because the topic here is the many many many awesome reasons to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

For example, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help Jagex increase their sales and so they will be able to hire more people to maintain and create awesome updates for everyone to enjoy, there are many things in the game and on the forums that need to be maintained, updated and created.

If the need arises, they could even hire extra people to maintain the forums and keep it nice and tidy, so your concerns about loose forum threads was already addressed and that's why Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is an awesome idea because it supports Jagex and strengthens the future of the game! :D
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16-Dec-2018 17:47:53

Kalea Sprite

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DiskOfReturn said :
Well the whole qoute thing worked out great. :/

I don't trust Jagex, imo Jagex uses ways to manipulate prices themselfs. I wouldn't want Jagex to be in control of the party hat market to be honest. Whenever they like they could buff the drop rate without anyone knowing. NO TY
I think we should trust Jagex because they own the game, it seems weird to say that you like the game but you don't like Jagex but they're the ones that make the game that you like?

But, I would rather see Jagex use the official data that they have to develop solutions that will balance the game for everyone to enjoy.

When you speak about price manipulation, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will actually help prevent flip/merch/investors from manipulating the Partyhat market because it will increase competition and prevent monopolies from forming. Market competition is a good thing, it's fun and exciting for everyone and increasing the supply of Partyhats will bring life to the stagnant phat market monopolized by a handful of people who swap it back and forth out of sheer boredom, the phat market is on the verge of extinction and Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will rescue and revitalize the joy and cheerfulness of the holidays! :D

So, supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is the right thing to do! :D
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16-Dec-2018 18:05:59

Sharp-shin

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DiskOfReturn said :
Well the whole qoute thing worked out great. :/

I don't trust Jagex, imo Jagex uses ways to manipulate prices themselfs. I wouldn't want Jagex to be in control of the party hat market to be honest. Whenever they like they could buff the drop rate without anyone knowing. NO TY

(Disclaimer: My post is more of a reply to what's written in your post rather than you personally.)

That last sentence really hits it home: when it comes to gambling like Treasure Hunter, unless you know the drop rates as well as that their integrity is intact (as in, that they haven't been tampered with, such as by them being overseen by regulations), Jagex could easily get away with manipulating the odds without the players' knowledge. Meanwhile, on a service like Solomon's store, you don't have that problem, because there's no randomness involved; you get what you want with guarantee, which is a lot more consumer-friendly than gambling (which is corporate-friendly and anti-consumer).

Now, some people might be gullible enough to just look at the game's developers and think "hey, they've made a pretty good base of a game, so there's no way they'd deceive us like that", but that's no guarantee of anything: even if the developers were good guys all around, they're not the ones who currently run RS3, they're just the "factory floor" workers now. The marketing team is what runs RS3 on a higher management level, and those folks don't care one bit about you as a person, only how to get as much money from you as possible (hence why MTX like TH exists). They don't have morals when it comes to selling RS3 to you, only the law is what stops them from doing even shadier practices than they already do.

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16-Dec-2018 19:37:33

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