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Whatusaytome said :
Ignored once again. By both.

Your ideas are not going to happen for original partyhats. Nobody supports it. Cheers.

Actually, it seems that you're the one ignoring the replies because I've responded to your comments, click here .

Jagex is known for updating every aspect of the game, so it's likely only a matter of time until they address the overpowered flip/merch/investing leech mechanic of Partyhats and it might take the form of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

Also, there are people that support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, so it seems that you've simply missed reading the posts.

For The Win, support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do! :D
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07-May-2019 21:45:08

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To clear things up, you just showed me one thing, my suggestion for somebody else's idea.

You're responding to my points, just to throw them to the dust and use your own.

To be clear, you also do not use any bit of my strong, logic-filled arguments against the flip merch investing you try to argue against. And your mention of it doesn't have any reasoning behind it that anybody else would understand.

You have not used my ideas, or my reasoning, and I'm possibly the only other one who has logical reason to support this thread. I say that because I don't see anybody else backing you up. A rare person says support with nothing to back anybody up. Many more say they dont, with reasons why.

But I don't support the extremes that are almost every single suggestion in the list. As I said those are more likely to happen if they were for new items. It's not going to happen with original partyhats.

Now I feel like this thread is a waste to post on.
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07-May-2019 22:27:07

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Whatusaytome said :
~ Now I feel like this thread is a waste to post on.

Your disparaging remarks are not consistent with logical reasoning. But, if that's the extent of your logical reasoning then it suggests that your views aren't logical but rather rant raging.

However, if you are sincere then by all means offer up some constructive criticism.

Just to be clear, personal attacks are not part of constructive criticism, such disparaging comments are not part of a civil and respectful discussion.

Now, we were previously discussing the question of how common, or how rare, should winning Partyhats on Treasure Hunter be?

With Divine Partyhat Map Boss Bubbles, there are a number of skill and combat obstacles as well as rng obstacles that could be configured to the desired chance of winning Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

What are your thoughts regarding this idea with respect to the question of how common, or how rare, should winning Partyhats on Treasure Hunter be?
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07-May-2019 23:28:29

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There's very much detail with constructive criticism in all of my posts since returning. Like I said, seems it's left to be forgotten now.

I'm quite sincere in the fact that I support revisiting original partyhats with treasure hunter. But not with almost any of the suggestions besides the rare gem.

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To answer your question. I think they should absolutely be rare if done simply by putting hats as a possible prize. But they can't make the supply increase too drastically to where so many people become free Billionaires and the Billionaires who earned theirs become broke. It's a grand lottery prize that deserves some respect.

The Devine bubble idea can be farmed by any decent level player. It becomes overpowered itself by the possibility of getting a drop better than anything current top tier bossing can do.
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08-May-2019 00:04:21

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Your reply included a number of points but first let's focus on this point:
Whatusaytome said :
~ To answer your question. I think they should absolutely be rare if done simply by putting hats as a possible prize. But they can't make the supply increase too drastically to where so many people become free Billionaires ~

Your preference appears that Partyhats on Treasure Hunter should be rare, perhaps in a super rare category, such as Onyx, Hydrix, etc.

However, you appear to be against people becoming "free billionaires."

If the Partyhats are in a super rare category, this would appear to result in the prices of the Partyhats still being worth billions.

If Partyhats are in the super rare category and still worth billions, how would the Partyhats being in the super rare category not result in people becoming "free billionaires?"

How should the supply of Partyhats be increased in order to address your concerns (1) not drastically increased in supply; (2) avoid "free billionaires; (3) still be worth billions because of your first concern, i.e. not drastically increased in supply?
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08-May-2019 05:28:42

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Stop twisting what I say, this is why I say it's a waste to post here now. Nobody can have a logical opinion with you. You completely disregarded the important part of that sentence you quoted.

As I said, they are a grand lottery prize. It's not logical to put the most expensive item in the game on a lottery just to have it be won frequently. That's not how lottery works.

I'm not against people winning a life changing prize. I'm against the prize becoming worthless. Which is what would happen if they were a common prize. They are the most rare thing the game has, so winning one should be the most rare stroke of luck a person can get.
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08-May-2019 06:59:18

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Whatusaytome said :
Stop twisting what I say, this is why I say it's a waste to post here now. Nobody can have a logical opinion with you. You completely disregarded the important part of that sentence you quoted.

As I said, they are a grand lottery prize. It's not logical to put the most expensive item in the game on a lottery just to have it be won frequently. That's not how lottery works.

I'm not against people winning a life changing prize. I'm against the prize becoming worthless. Which is what would happen if they were a common prize. They are the most rare thing the game has, so winning one should be the most rare stroke of luck a person can get.

I haven't twisted anything, I was just asking follow up questions.

Now you appear to be claiming that you're concerned about the prize becoming worthless, is this an additional concern which is different from the concern for avoiding "free billionaires?"

On a more technical point, discussions about lotteries will tend to take us off topic, however, would it be fair to say that you're not concerned about avoiding "free billionaires?"

So if the Partyhats on Treasure Hunter were in offered in a super rare category and someone won it, you're not really concerned that they might become a "free billionaire?"
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08-May-2019 08:18:42

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Stop acting like I'm saying anything about free Billionaires being a problem. It only becomes a problem if it happens too frequently. Which you keep ignoring.

I endorse a prize that could actually change a person's life in the game. I don't think the 200m is a life changer. It can buy a nox weapon, that's basically it.

Lottery, is exactly what treasure hunter is. It's a spin on a wheel for a free prize, some people pay for more, and some people use the free daily spins. It's a game for a prize. It's a lottery.

If you want me to be specific. They'd need to be so rare that maybe one winner per week, 52 hats per year entered the game. It's possible even more could also work, but that sounds like a safe number that won't destroy the items.
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08-May-2019 13:55:58

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Whatusaytome said :
Stop acting like I'm saying anything about free Billionaires being a problem. It only becomes a problem if it happens too frequently. Which you keep ignoring.

Look, I'm trying to understand your view on this point, so I asked follow up questions.

So your allegation is inappropriate, I'm not ignoring your statements.

By asking you directly to explain your position is proof that I'm not ignoring your statements.

How can I be ignoring you when I'm trying to understand what you're point is and directly asking you about them?

I'd like to know why you're making such an allegation, however that would take us off topic.

Anyway, on topic, I think you'll just have to agree that we disagree on this point about the Partyhats being worth billions. I think Partyhats are simply cosmetic items that were shared with everyone over the holidays for fun.

I think the Partyhats should be placed on the orange or red gem category on Treasure Hunter.
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