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Draco Burnz
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UrekMazino said :
TH won't be categorised as gambling, mostly since you can't sell the items/xp you earned for IRL money, well not legally anyways.
Pretty much.
This is just another futile attempt to get rid of TH...
Loot boxes can only become more favorable to video game developers once when the World draws the line between gaming, "gambling" simulations, and illegal gambling among other forms of real world crimes. By then, Steam and such will be forced to shift their real money player trading initiatives back to loot boxes... or instead of associating themselves to shady illegal 3rd party sites, Steam can real world trade their skins with "healthy" companies like what Overwatch is currently doing with Kellogg - buy Kelogg pop-tarts, get a golden Loot Box.
UrekMazino said :
TH won't be categorised as gambling, mostly since you can't sell the items/xp you earned for IRL money, well not legally anyways.
Pretty much.
This is just another futile attempt to get rid of TH...
Loot boxes can only become more favorable to video game developers once when the World draws the line between gaming, "gambling" simulations, and illegal gambling among other forms of real world crimes. By then, Steam and such will be forced to shift their real money player trading initiatives back to loot boxes... or instead of associating themselves to shady illegal 3rd party sites, Steam can real world trade their skins with "healthy" companies like what Overwatch is currently doing with Kellogg - buy Kelogg pop-tarts, get a golden Loot Box.
27-Sep-2018 02:00:18
Dilbert2001
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Meanwhile, TH is not real gambling and have no real world impacts. That's why Jagex is business as usual all the way with TH.
What is the difference between battlefront 2 lootboxes vs th? Both are pay to win, targeted towards children and has a random chance element.
Its the red and purple slot items that create dopamine junkie children, possibly leading into real gambling problems when they reach adulthood.
Its usually the gambling addicts that speak heavily against removing things like th or even turning them to adults only.
Meanwhile, TH is not real gambling and have no real world impacts. That's why Jagex is business as usual all the way with TH.
What is the difference between battlefront 2 lootboxes vs th? Both are pay to win, targeted towards children and has a random chance element.
Its the red and purple slot items that create dopamine junkie children, possibly leading into real gambling problems when they reach adulthood.
Its usually the gambling addicts that speak heavily against removing things like th or even turning them to adults only.
27-Sep-2018 10:05:58
Dilbert2001
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Loot boxes can only become more favorable to video game developers once when the World draws the line between gaming, "gambling" simulations, and illegal gambling among other forms of real world crimes. By then, Steam and such will be forced to shift their real money player trading initiatives back to loot boxes... or instead of associating themselves to shady illegal 3rd party sites, Steam can real world trade their skins with "healthy" companies like what Overwatch is currently doing with Kellogg - buy Kelogg pop-tarts, get a golden Loot Box.
It.. actually doesn't matter if a 3rd party is doing the trading or if Valve is doing it... It is still cashing out which then categorises loot boxes as gambling which will be banned in certain countries. Honestly? I see the exact opposite happening. Game devs will shift away from randomised loot boxes and move back to the old microtransaction model where the players will be getting exactly what they paid for. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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Loot boxes can only become more favorable to video game developers once when the World draws the line between gaming, "gambling" simulations, and illegal gambling among other forms of real world crimes. By then, Steam and such will be forced to shift their real money player trading initiatives back to loot boxes... or instead of associating themselves to shady illegal 3rd party sites, Steam can real world trade their skins with "healthy" companies like what Overwatch is currently doing with Kellogg - buy Kelogg pop-tarts, get a golden Loot Box.
It.. actually doesn't matter if a 3rd party is doing the trading or if Valve is doing it... It is still cashing out which then categorises loot boxes as gambling which will be banned in certain countries. Honestly? I see the exact opposite happening. Game devs will shift away from randomised loot boxes and move back to the old microtransaction model where the players will be getting exactly what they paid for. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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27-Sep-2018 12:41:23
I Lack Heart
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Dilbert2001 said :
Meanwhile, TH is not real gambling and have no real world impacts. That's why Jagex is business as usual all the way with TH.
What is the difference between battlefront 2 lootboxes vs th? Both are pay to win, targeted towards children and has a random chance element.
Its the red and purple slot items that create dopamine junkie children, possibly leading into real gambling problems when they reach adulthood.
Its usually the gambling addicts that speak heavily against removing things like th or even turning them to adults only.
Pay to win is not illegal whatsoever to any government of any country. Real life is always pay to win, always, but it is obviously not illegal in any part of the world.
Only the GOVERNMENTS can define/prosecute/decide what is legal or not. Nobody says anything about TH, therefore we see TH everyday. Enough said.
Dilbert2001 said :
Meanwhile, TH is not real gambling and have no real world impacts. That's why Jagex is business as usual all the way with TH.
What is the difference between battlefront 2 lootboxes vs th? Both are pay to win, targeted towards children and has a random chance element.
Its the red and purple slot items that create dopamine junkie children, possibly leading into real gambling problems when they reach adulthood.
Its usually the gambling addicts that speak heavily against removing things like th or even turning them to adults only.
Pay to win is not illegal whatsoever to any government of any country. Real life is always pay to win, always, but it is obviously not illegal in any part of the world.
Only the GOVERNMENTS can define/prosecute/decide what is legal or not. Nobody says anything about TH, therefore we see TH everyday. Enough said.
27-Sep-2018 14:38:16
UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
Loot boxes can only become more favorable to video game developers once when the World draws the line between gaming, "gambling" simulations, and illegal gambling among other forms of real world crimes. By then, Steam and such will be forced to shift their real money player trading initiatives back to loot boxes... or instead of associating themselves to shady illegal 3rd party sites, Steam can real world trade their skins with "healthy" companies like what Overwatch is currently doing with Kellogg - buy Kelogg pop-tarts, get a golden Loot Box.
It.. actually doesn't matter if a 3rd party is doing the trading or if Valve is doing it... It is still cashing out which then categorises loot boxes as gambling which will be banned in certain countries. Honestly? I see the exact opposite happening. Game devs will shift away from randomised loot boxes and move back to the old microtransaction model where the players will be getting exactly what they paid for.
One major difference between real money player trading game features (e.g. Steam) and 3rd party offsite RWT (e.g. Duel Arena in Runescape and such):
Steam takes a cut of the proceeds. They are in the loop. They are essentially the middlemen. But Jagex is not responsible for any wrongdoing by any 3rd party they are not related to. They take no profits from RWT via the Duel Arena loophole and active RWT promoting by their players.
Steam and the likes will be forced to give up taking real money profits from player trading or outright abandon it in the future. What Steam gonna do when they come for real money player trading? Nowhere but back to the legal means of more MTX without any involvement of player trading and 3rd party sites.
Dilbert2001 said :
Loot boxes can only become more favorable to video game developers once when the World draws the line between gaming, "gambling" simulations, and illegal gambling among other forms of real world crimes. By then, Steam and such will be forced to shift their real money player trading initiatives back to loot boxes... or instead of associating themselves to shady illegal 3rd party sites, Steam can real world trade their skins with "healthy" companies like what Overwatch is currently doing with Kellogg - buy Kelogg pop-tarts, get a golden Loot Box.
It.. actually doesn't matter if a 3rd party is doing the trading or if Valve is doing it... It is still cashing out which then categorises loot boxes as gambling which will be banned in certain countries. Honestly? I see the exact opposite happening. Game devs will shift away from randomised loot boxes and move back to the old microtransaction model where the players will be getting exactly what they paid for.
One major difference between real money player trading game features (e.g. Steam) and 3rd party offsite RWT (e.g. Duel Arena in Runescape and such):
Steam takes a cut of the proceeds. They are in the loop. They are essentially the middlemen. But Jagex is not responsible for any wrongdoing by any 3rd party they are not related to. They take no profits from RWT via the Duel Arena loophole and active RWT promoting by their players.
Steam and the likes will be forced to give up taking real money profits from player trading or outright abandon it in the future. What Steam gonna do when they come for real money player trading? Nowhere but back to the legal means of more MTX without any involvement of player trading and 3rd party sites.
27-Sep-2018 14:48:58
Dilbert2001
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Pay to win is not illegal whatsoever to any government of any country. Real life is always pay to win, always, but it is obviously not illegal in any part of the world.
Only the GOVERNMENTS can define/prosecute/decide what is legal or not. Nobody says anything about TH, therefore we see TH everyday. Enough said.
You are speaking like world was born with specific regulations and that they will never be changed, you know world doesnt work that way right? Why do you think Battlefront 2 had to pull their lootboxes out when they are very similar to Runescape th? Nobody says anything about TH specifically because Runescape as of nowadays has very little following, so why on earth would someone speak about it when there is better and more mainstream examples to use? Of course the changes will still apply to TH even when there is no one ridiculing. I guarantee you that if Runescape was huge and widely known platform it would get a lot of heat so you might wanna ease on your addiction.
Also stop spamming smileys, it gives your posts zero credibility and makes you look like child with 70 IQ.
Pay to win is not illegal whatsoever to any government of any country. Real life is always pay to win, always, but it is obviously not illegal in any part of the world.
Only the GOVERNMENTS can define/prosecute/decide what is legal or not. Nobody says anything about TH, therefore we see TH everyday. Enough said.
You are speaking like world was born with specific regulations and that they will never be changed, you know world doesnt work that way right? Why do you think Battlefront 2 had to pull their lootboxes out when they are very similar to Runescape th? Nobody says anything about TH specifically because Runescape as of nowadays has very little following, so why on earth would someone speak about it when there is better and more mainstream examples to use? Of course the changes will still apply to TH even when there is no one ridiculing. I guarantee you that if Runescape was huge and widely known platform it would get a lot of heat so you might wanna ease on your addiction.
Also stop spamming smileys, it gives your posts zero credibility and makes you look like child with 70 IQ.
27-Sep-2018 15:21:21
What has the "world" changed? What regulations forced Jagex to do anything to do with TH? Nothing. Jagex has capable lawyers just as all the major video game studios have their own capable lawyers. That's why we have all the loot boxes for all the Runescape layers.
27-Sep-2018 15:31:26
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