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UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Wow, crazy, a controversy that blew up only a week ago has not had any legal repercussions yet? WTF why is my government not doing things instantly? Its almost like there's some sort of bureaucracy in place that slows things down, almost like there are legal procedures to go through, almost like there are paperworks to go through, almost like there are lawyers to hire and courtrooms to book. Wow, you're so completely right, these things are completely OK because no action has been taken after one entire week of the issue coming to light!

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WoW. I'd really love to see what the governments will do to this "mystery boxes" internet celebrity, especially theat Belgium Minister of whatever. Oh wait... he did not even make good on his holy crusade promise against online gambling by joining force with the 15 EU countries and Washington State when he learned their real purpose is to tackle the real world 3rd party skin gambling. What a farce!!! :D

Hello, I'd like to live in your fantasy world where laws can be implemented in an instant and court cases can be called immediately, thanks.
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15-Jan-2019 08:02:45

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Wow, crazy, a controversy that blew up only a week ago has not had any legal repercussions yet? WTF why is my government not doing things instantly? Its almost like there's some sort of bureaucracy in place that slows things down, almost like there are legal procedures to go through, almost like there are paperworks to go through, almost like there are lawyers to hire and courtrooms to book. Wow, you're so completely right, these things are completely OK because no action has been taken after one entire week of the issue coming to light!

How do I add more sarcasm?


WoW. I'd really love to see what the governments will do to this "mystery boxes" internet celebrity, especially theat Belgium Minister of whatever. Oh wait... he did not even make good on his holy crusade promise against online gambling by joining force with the 15 EU countries and Washington State when he learned their real purpose is to tackle the real world 3rd party skin gambling. What a farce!!! :D

Hello, I'd like to live in your fantasy world where laws can be implemented in an instant and court cases can be called immediately, thanks.


The laws against real world gambling site like Mystery Brand are already out there, especially in Belgium. They could have just arrested those Youtube celebrities already but they didn't do a thing. Neither did Youtube do a thing.

Besides, why don't all the do-gooders who cried out loud against loot boxes do the same petitions, bills, etc against the actual real world gambling mystery boxes? :D :D :D

15-Jan-2019 17:05:26

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Its almost like most of the existing laws don't really apply to what happens on the internet. Its almost like the government and people of authority are still debating on how these laws should be implemented to this new territory. Crazy how they can't be convicted of something that lies in the grey area of the law! Funny how the youtubers who are calling these people out, its almost like they're trying to bring these issues to the attention of the public and in turn the government, its almost like they're actually doing something! Ah, but because these gambling sites aren't being taken down or people behind them brought to court instantly it must mean nothing is happening nor nothing will ever happen! °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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17-Jan-2019 06:51:49

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UrekMazino said :
Its almost like most of the existing laws don't really apply to what happens on the internet. Its almost like the government and people of authority are still debating on how these laws should be implemented to this new territory. Crazy how they can't be convicted of something that lies in the grey area of the law! Funny how the youtubers who are calling these people out, its almost like they're trying to bring these issues to the attention of the public and in turn the government, its almost like they're actually doing something! Ah, but because these gambling sites aren't being taken down or people behind them brought to court instantly it must mean nothing is happening nor nothing will ever happen!


Why don't all those do-gooders including OP go to the governments and cry for petitions, bills, regulations against these real world gamblers on the internet then?

I encourage them to call the police to arrest them and tell them how bad their children are affected already. Yes, just go. Why waste time here in a game forum just to complain about how "evil" virtual items and virtual "gambling" simulations are but don't do the RIGHT THING in the real world?

I bet EA would raise their hands and feet to support the Belgium minster of whachamacallit to arrest those Mystery Brand real world gambling boxes too. :D :D :D

17-Jan-2019 17:59:18

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Dilbert2001 said :
Why waste time here in a game forum just to complain about how "evil" virtual items and virtual "gambling" simulations are but don't do the RIGHT THING in the real world?

Its called bringing attention to more people? Pretty sure I've already explained that, why make me repeat myself?
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18-Jan-2019 04:31:15

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LOL!!! Catching the attention of "more" people. Nobody has been filing any more petitions or bills.

Perhaps it catches the attention of some silly Belgium moron's attention that now they will have absolutely no argument against EA whatsoever:

His original compliant against EA was they used Ronaldo, a famous soccer player to advertise their loot boxes therefore it is gambling but other TCG like Pokemon don't have a Ronaldo mascot.

However, with famous internet personalities promoting real life loot boxes with real life prizes over real life social media but the same Belgium morn doesn't say a word, that moron simply shot his own feet. He has no argument whatsoever against EA anymore.

Yes, it catches the attention of the entire world. It tells them how stupid it is for a petty group of players to single out the video game industry. :D :D :D

18-Jan-2019 15:24:50

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
Nobody has been filing any more petitions or bills
yet
.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. This is literally your only defense for this whole debacle, that nothing has been done
yet
, even though that's untrue and the time frame is too short to make such conclusion.
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19-Jan-2019 09:05:56

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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Nobody has been filing any more petitions or bills
yet
.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. This is literally your only defense for this whole debacle, that nothing has been done
yet
, even though that's untrue and the time frame is too short to make such conclusion.


Might I also add that we also don't know what's going on behind closed doors in the governments in question. That goes double for Belgium since they are still investigating EA and it would go against the idea of a criminal investigation if info on that were made public. For all we know there could be new law released tomorrow for all we know. And if you do know what's going then please reveal to us your top secret source. I'm sure we'd all love to know.

As for "fake" laws yea I never mentioned anything about "fake" laws. I've even clearly stated the laws haven't been made
yet
key word in both here and in Urek's post
yet
. So try again with your whole redirect the flow of the conversation just to cover up for the lack of substance in your argument.

Also if there aren't laws against Loot Boxes in Belgium then can you explain why only EA are fighting for their Loot Boxes? Heck even Square Enix have pulled some of the games that contained them from Belgium and they weren't directly targeted by the the Belgium minister in question. So enlighten us as to why is it only one out of four companies fighting for their Loot Boxes.

Although I'm certain you'll just pull your usual mental gymnastics and dodge our points. It would even seem you've lowered yourself to call people who disagree with you names. *Slow claps* You must be so proud of yourself trying to silence our "toxic gamer rage".
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19-Jan-2019 13:26:25

Dilbert2001
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Laws don't come overnight in democratic countries. Law makings are transparent even in China. :D

Bills can be added but
LAWS
don't come out of thin air tomorrow.

Law enforcement is also transparent in countries like Belgium too. When somebody or some companies like Jake Paul or EA is arrested for illegal gambling, the world will know and they will be given their due process with a DATE in COURT. Extremely obvious nothing has happened. :D :D :D

Don't even further deflect the topic to "toxic gamer rage". Nobody has talked about toxic, gamer rage or anything remotely close to it. Laws are equal and transparent to everybody in >99% of the countries in the world, no exception to game players, toxic gamer players, Larry, Curry, Moe, and/or raging toxic game players. :D :D :D

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