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Hguoh

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Hazeel, we've also heard Zaros's voice when listening to his memories, which are of a time long before he could have ever considered us or anyone else besides Seren or Mah as a potential listener (admittedly, this would be the sound of his thoughts, but if you want to make the case that Zaros was speaking to Sliske via the mind this still applies).

And as for the speaking through people's minds, we only have four occasions where Zaros has been observed to have or been said to have done that:

1. Drakan hearing Zaros's voice in The Old Blood.
2. Zaros entering the threshold of Zamorak's mind in the Empty Throne.
3. Azzanadra hearing Zaros's voice in the 3rd age after the communion portal did not work (by his own admission in his memory, he merely 'divined' Zaros's will prior to the coup rather than take direct orders).
4. Zaros entering the threshold of our mind in Fot*.

Due to his drained and defeated state, there's no way for Zaros to have been speaking to Drakan or Azzanadra in either 1 or 3. And as for 2 and 4, Zaros was in the immediate proximity to Zamorak and the Player, showing no capacity to do so over a long range.

Edit: Also, the voice specifically calls the Siphon the staff, while Zaros distinctly has only called it the Siphon (this appears to extend to the other artifacts as well as he only calls the stone the Catalyst as well).

05-Jun-2016 18:22:15 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 18:41:42 by Hguoh

Hazeel

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You missed one. He called Char to him mentally in the second age to investigate Seren. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

05-Jun-2016 18:50:06

Kemtros
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Hazeel said :
You missed one. He called Char to him mentally in the second age to investigate Seren.

Which was well within his power, which he would not have to be able to communicate with Sliske if he were the mysterious voice.

He also tells Char "It gives me pause that he holds both the Siphon and the Catalyst. I do not want him thinking he can follow in Zamorak's footsteps. He is angry, and may attempt something rash. Inform me if he leads you to the location of either artefact. None of the young gods should have free access to such tools. Especially the Catalyst – the dragonkin cannot grow too strong before we are placed to deal with them."

This suggests that those names are very casual to him, especially since he himself is fond of giving names. Why would he call it a staff when he sees it as a Siphon?

Then there's his command to Nex: "I task you with keeping Sliske's little game in check – watch the young gods. Try to contain their destruction as much as possible, but do not get drawn into open conflict. There may come a time that I need you to step in to ensure nothing interferes with my plans." To him, the game keeps the gods occupied so they won't interfere with his plan. To the mysterious voice, game is the plan.

Sliske has a game where the Stone of Jas is the prize. Why would Zaros send two of his servants to focus on countering different parts of what Sliske is doing? If Zaros had that meeting with Sliske in the vault, did he not know where the vault was? Or if he did know, why didn't he just tell Char to go there?

It just raises too many questions.

05-Jun-2016 19:28:03

Hguoh

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Hazeel said :
You missed one. He called Char to him mentally in the second age to investigate Seren.

For the life of me, I could only find information that Char had been ordered on the expedition to Seren's lands by Zaros, but nothing indicating it was by mental order. Even still, I would attribute such a communication to Char's own abilities, given her apparent awareness of everything happening in the caves during Firemaker's Curse (she also mentions not being able to sense Zaros anymore) as well as possess the Firemakers, rather than anything on Zaros's part.

05-Jun-2016 19:40:21

Sepulchre
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This entire page proves one thing:
Zaros isn't the Mysterious Voice.

It's obvious to me now who Sliske's master is. I should've seen it from the start. Sliske's master is actually
Evil Bob
A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

06-Jun-2016 04:57:59

Dan-i-el

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I personally believe this mysterious voice to be that of Jas.
Sliske was standing next to the stone of Jas after all, we also know Sliske was attempting to further investigate the stone. I wouldn't be too surprised if he somehow found a way to tap into its power in such a way, that it linked him to Jas.

I like to think of it like a mobile phone.
A mobile phone that burns continents.
"Hello, this is Jas, please leave a message after the beep".

12-Jun-2016 17:23:41

Zulkir

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Dan-i-el said :
I personally believe this mysterious voice to be that of Jas.
Sliske was standing next to the stone of Jas after all, we also know Sliske was attempting to further investigate the stone. I wouldn't be too surprised if he somehow found a way to tap into its power in such a way, that it linked him to Jas.

I like to think of it like a mobile phone.
A mobile phone that burns continents.
"Hello, this is Jas, please leave a message after the beep".

But the voice calls the artifacts by mortal dubbed names, Jas would never stoop to that level to use mortal slang.

It could be an elder god that never had anything to do with Artifacts, or perhaps creation itself. Wen, maybe?
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12-Jun-2016 18:03:18

Hazeel

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Zulkir said :
Dan-i-el said :
I personally believe this mysterious voice to be that of Jas.
Sliske was standing next to the stone of Jas after all, we also know Sliske was attempting to further investigate the stone. I wouldn't be too surprised if he somehow found a way to tap into its power in such a way, that it linked him to Jas.

I like to think of it like a mobile phone.
A mobile phone that burns continents.
"Hello, this is Jas, please leave a message after the beep".

But the voice calls the artifacts by mortal dubbed names, Jas would never stoop to that level to use mortal slang.

It could be an elder god that never had anything to do with Artifacts, or perhaps creation itself. Wen, maybe?

Elders wouldn't use language at all. Period. They have no means of communicating to us except through their own creations. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

12-Jun-2016 19:05:15

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