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Hguoh

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Some of our favorite contenders can be rendered largely unlikely by certain aspects of what the voice said.

It's likely not some other personality of Sliske because the voice speaks at least once while Sliske faces toward us and we see he isn't speaking (granted, the crystal could have been recording his thoughts as well).

It's likely not Zaros or an elder god due to the use of the mortal names for the Siphon and Catalyst.

The concise and direct statements make Viggora an unlikely candidate as well (plus, he considered his fortress beautiful in the Declaration of Viggora, whereas the voice cares not for beauty).

Armadyl is unlikely given his advocation against Sliske and his position as a participant in Sliske's competition. He's also not known for speaking so curtly.

Even a Dragonkin is unlikely since Sliske wouldn't have had to capture another one in order to find the Stone if it was.

The rest of our options are either largely unknown (Queen of Ashes) or have no known significant experience with the Siphon (Hostilius).

Are we sure it's not gonna be a new character?

04-Jun-2016 21:41:04

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Hazeel said :
Cthris said :
Viggora making a deal with Sliske does not mean he is not making a deal with Sliske. What? He meant to say that Viggora making a deal with Sliske doesn't necessarily mean he's disloyal to Zamorak. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

04-Jun-2016 22:19:43

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Hguoh said :
Are we sure it's not gonna be a new character?

Mod Raven was asked on stream if they had decided who the voice actually belonged to, he laughed and very merrily said yes.

From that it's likely someone whose name we already know,
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04-Jun-2016 22:47:12 - Last edited on 04-Jun-2016 22:47:32 by Zulkir

Cthris
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Hguoh said :

The concise and direct statements make Viggora an unlikely candidate as well (plus, he considered his fortress beautiful in the Declaration of Viggora, whereas the voice cares not for beauty).


Look up the dialog from the Curse of Zaros. Viggora is extremely concise and direct. And yes, he does describe his fortress as beautiful, but keep in mind that Viggora has been trapped in the shadow realm for eons as a ghost.

Look at how Relomia describes the shadow realm

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I was trapped there for a long time - staring only at shades and patterns in the gloom. Eventually, I saw things...things that I'm not certain I'll ever be able to understand.

For Viggora anything beautiful would simply devolve into shades and patterns. In addition, imagine you are Viggora. Picture that the most beautiful thing you ever created was also your biggest failure. It certainly would be reasonable to for one in such circumstances to find beauty has meaningless.

Look at this by the way. I found it to be kind of interesting.

This is how Sliske describes a world without beauty.

Sliske: Beauty makes the world bearable; without it, life is grey and empty

In my opinion, Sliskes description of a life without beauty can be applied perfectly to Relomia`s description of the shadow realm. It feels like Sliske is mocking the voice the entire time about how wonderful beauty is when he knows perfectly well that the voice is trapped in the shadow realm. It`s a stretch for sure, but it does fit, so I*ll take it.

04-Jun-2016 23:27:30

Cthris
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Raleirosen said :
Hazeel said :
Cthris said :
Viggora making a deal with Sliske does not mean he is not making a deal with Sliske. What? He meant to say that Viggora making a deal with Sliske doesn't necessarily mean he's disloyal to Zamorak.
Yes exactly, thanks :D . I was watching tv while posting so I must have gotten distracted. Sorry abut that Hazeel.

04-Jun-2016 23:29:49

Lego Miester
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I had a brief crack theory that the voice was Guthix, but looking through the dialogue it's just so dry and matter-of-fact it sounds nothing like him.

I'm sticking to the idea that it is the stone itself, and it wants the gods to die, as that will cause their stolen power to return to the stone, and finally allow it to hatch.

That idea of using that god as a vessel also has potential. But then Sliske is rigging the contest so he wins. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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04-Jun-2016 23:58:50 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 00:01:56 by Lego Miester

Hazeel

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Kemtros said :
Hazeel said :
Zaros seems the most likely.

Look through this thread for reasons why he's not.

The only reasons I'm seeing are

1) "Zaros couldn't be there!" which is the most convincing, seeing as Sliske did turn, but he did not HAVE to be there to talk to him. He speaks through people's minds.

2) "He sounds different from FOTG!" He sounds different from his most fake moment to you? He sounded different in TLW too, so you shouldn't be surprised, and in TLW he does talk like "Sliske's Master".

3) "But Zaros recognizes beauty!" So he does. He's not blind. But I doubt he's stupid enough to place much value behind it. This is the guy who sees love as a negative aspect, do you think he'd value beauty? At least love grants him loyalty.

And yes, he does feel love. It's not that he doesn't understand it, but he recognizes its lack of value to him. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

05-Jun-2016 03:23:59 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 03:26:13 by Hazeel

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Okay, so you missed where the mysterious voice is willing to use the Stone of Jas as bait while Zaros really needs to get it for himself, putting their methods and goals already on completely opposing sides.

05-Jun-2016 06:13:06

Hazeel

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Kemtros said :
Okay, so you missed where the mysterious voice is willing to use the Stone of Jas as bait while Zaros really needs to get it for himself, putting their methods and goals already on completely opposing sides.

Sliske has the game rigged so nobody else can win it. The Stone really isn't in danger as far as I can see. We know Zaros needs it to become an Elder, but I doubt it's as simple as touch the stone at Tier 2 and become an Elder.

See, for the longest time, since FOTG, I have been wondering.....why hasn't Zaros kept Sliske at his side? Why not keep him close, try to worm the location of the staff/stone from him, and then take it? Or just order him to hand it over and try his luck? Heck, maybe keep Sliske on his side for awhile, then enter his mind and use Sliske's inability to hide the truth to learn the stone's location?

This is (currently) the only explanation we have as to why that is...because he already "has" the stone, he just needs to fulfill another requirement to obtain Elder status. I'm not saying that Zaros is the definate candidate, but he's currently the most likely I've heard. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

05-Jun-2016 06:40:24

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