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Hguoh

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Of course, that only matters if the anima was damaged (something characteristic of Tuska visiting a plane), which we aren't given any indication that it was.

4. The beast and monkeys specifically removed every reference of the Mwanu from the world, destroying that of the Mwanu culture and all references to it, and not just the wanton destruction of anything and everything that characterizes Tuska's visits to a world.

So yeah, I find it very unlikely that the beast in the story was Tuska.

13-Mar-2018 18:48:07 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2018 18:49:50 by Hguoh

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2015

Uncle Harper

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Hguoh said :

Superficially, sure, a great beast of tusk and fury sounds a lot like Tuska, but there are a number of details that make this really unlikely.

1. The beast was armed with a horn that turned the jungle against the Mwanu. The description of this horn fits what we know of the elder horn very well (it was used to control sea monsters on Gielinor and the elder gods initially used it to communicate and command the TokHaar, just like this beast used it to control the jungle).

At best, this could describe an Airut Shaman using such a horn to control the jungle (just like one on Mazcab turned avatars of anima (like Yakamaru) against the goebies).

2. The monkeys of the plane gathered under the banner of the beast. From prior stories, we know that the Airut didn't take allies. Instead, they killed the natives of any planes they invaded. So if the beast was Tuska and the Airut were already with her by this point (as they'd need to be to control the jungle as described), the monkeys couldn't have allied with her.

However, I could easily see a god that likes to party taking the time to remove an oppressive, no-fun race from power.

3. The monkeys renamed the world. As Tuska leaves the worlds she visits decimated, such name changes are only necessary if, and only if, the denizens can scrape together a method to sustain some amount of life on their plane (like the goebies did). For some reason, I doubt that the monkeys had the technical prowess to stabilize their plane's residual anima like the goebies did.

Well Mazcab was at one time known as Chantli until Tuska invaded. Airut are not friendly but may not be Tuska's only servants. Either way doesn't have to be Tuska as this is a minor point in the theory. I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

13-Mar-2018 18:51:51 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2018 18:54:05 by Uncle Harper

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13-Mar-2018 19:09:16

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2005

A Mad Hatter

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Wahisietel said :
A Mad Hatter said :
Wahisietel said :
A Mad Hatter said :
I thought the skeletal horror was literally a bunch of different bones that we helped put together rather than an original creature in itself, but I guess I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there was something acting as a blueprint or inspiration or whatever for its design at some point. At the very least it wasn't totally random in how that thing worked.

Can't say much more until I read the lore books for myself, so profiling I guess

The skull was unique, the Odd Old Man found it on Mos Le'Harmless and it instructed him to rebuild it with different types of bones.

It's been a long, long time since I've read up on anything about the skeletal horror and Odd Old Man, so I honestly wouldn't know. Is this all revealed in the new lorebooks, or was there something mentioned in the past that I just missed at some point?

You can find an old diary in the Odd Old Man's shack after the Fur 'n' Seek wishlist that details how he came into possession of the skeletal horror's skull.

Thanks for the tip, I'm not sure how I managed to overlook that O_o

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13-Mar-2018 19:22:34

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2020

Solmestix

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I just had a thought, you know those 'chants' that are associated with Xau-Tak (Like the one in Death at Sea),

"What carves it's hate upon the monolith? XAU-TAK! Through what do we crawl in silence? XAU-TAK!" What swims in the oceans of the dead? XAU-TAK! XAU-TAK! XAU-TAK!"

What if it's metaphorical for the Mwanu people devolving into the Horrors? The mwanu likely 'carved' that black mask (hate) onto that slab on Mos'le harmless under Xau-Tak's influence, and the line "Through what do we crawl in silence?" Links to a quote from Mod Wilson himself, "There is a scream so loud that you hear it as silence. And this is Xau-Tak", this could mean the Mwanu slowly going mad, and the "Oceans of the dead", those are places Xau-Tak has been, OR, the minds of the Horrors, as they are a violent people, blood and creature sacrifice is likely, as someone mentioned, their Primal Instinct, therefore it's the one thing on their mind. A sea of death, if you will.

13-Mar-2018 19:53:45

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2020

Solmestix

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(Cont)
These songs aren't just a siren song (pun very intended) for Xau-Tak's followers, it's a memorial of their descent into madness. Think about it, the crew of the Glory of zaros (This is taken from Death At Sea) went near Mos'Le Harmless, and encountered the Mwanu/Horrors, so perhaps the last things the mwanu were able to say were these chants...

13-Mar-2018 19:55:36

RoninOctopus

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Although the Horror lore have a lot of Lovecraftian elements (with the name of the various deities), there are also a lot of nods towards Aztec mythology. Key points are:

1) The emphasis of blood and blood sacrifices to keep the god's pleased.

2) The similarity of the name Tezcasathla to the Aztec deity Texcatlipoca (Smoking Mirror) who had strong ties to the night sky and obsidian.

3) The view of monkeys and apes as inferior beings. In certain Mesoamerican creation myths, modern age monkeys were descended from people of the Second World who were punished by Tezcatlipoca for becoming 'uncivilized' before ultimately being decimated by Quetzalcoatl (the Feathered Serpent) by a hurricane. Your friendly, neighborhood anthropologist

13-Mar-2018 20:19:05

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2018

Quael

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Uncle Harper said :
The invader god from the journals does sound a lot like Tuska.

Let's assume (Raven forgive me) that Xau did create the Mwanu. This would be the first instance of a god creating sentient life on purpose. This would go against the elders who see life as a mistake (could Xau be responsible for all life?). Xau can then be seen as the anti-god. Other actions would suggest that he wishes to undo the elders as well. MORE ASSUMPTIONS!
1. If he is the parasite Guthix described on remark that is consuming anima, he would be doing so to limit anima available for the Elders.
2. Mah was damaged by something corrupting her core while she was still slumbering. May not have been Xau but there could be a case for it if he wishes to further rid the cosmos of the elder sisters.
3. If Tuska did attack Jermyn, Tuska is a anima devourer. The Mwanu describe their god as turning against them when the invader arrived. Xau likely wouldn't mind Tuska munching up anima as again, that's less for the elders.
4. The world guardian has to prove to the elders that life isnt a mistake and should go on existing. What better way to do that than to take down the unseen nemesis of the elders? Xau has been cursing our name through the ages for some reason after all.
4b. Do you really think you can save "them", world guardian? Could them be something other than other mortals? Could the "them" in this question be the elder sisters? Xau can revive and kill mortals pretty effectively it seems. Why would he care about our actions with mortals? "Them" must be something much more grand to have created a beyond space/time hate against the world guardian.

Nicetheory, makes sense.

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14-Mar-2018 03:26:39

Swolllliosis

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Solmestix said :
"What carves it's hate upon the monolith? XAU-TAK! Through what do we crawl in silence? XAU-TAK!" What swims in the oceans of the dead? XAU-TAK! XAU-TAK! XAU-TAK!"

Here is a better version:

OOOOOOOH!
Who lives in an archipelago under the sea?!
Xau-Tak!
Giant and evil and tendril'd is he?!
Xau-Tak!
If death and destruction be somethin' you wish!
Xau-Tak!
Then jump in the ocean and die like the fish!
Xau-Tak!
Xau-Tak, Xau-Tak, Xau-Tak, Xau-Tak, Xau-Tak,Xau-Tak,
Xauuu-Taaaak....XAU-TAAAAAAAAK!
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14-Mar-2018 07:00:26 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2018 07:04:38 by Swolllliosis

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2020

Rensler

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This may be off the wall and unrelated but the journals detailed 3 entities of form correct?

Could this at all somehow be the Obsidian Tribunal that had Saradomins daughter on a "tomb world'? Supporter of

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14-Mar-2018 14:49:12

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