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Hguoh

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Actually, the reason why the Vampyres wouldn't have crossed the Salve is probably entirely due to the state of Asgarnia and Misthalin.

Varrock has one resident human.
Edgeville and the Barbarian village likely share Varrock's fate, given the zombie presence in Invention of Disaster.
Burthorpe and Taverly have had their human populations exterminated.
Falador's population has likely been both weakened and decimated by the Kinshra's Void Goo plan and the extermination/expulsion of the White Knights following their conquest of Falador.
Al Kharid will have found itself under Menaphite control due to the Emir's death, Prince's capture, and the failed attempt to trade the Kharid Ib. As such, Al Kharid would be subject to Amascut's machinations, making it an uncertain food source at best.
About half of Rimmington's inabitant's would have had their soul's devoured by the QBD, leaving the population unsustainable.

This leaves Draynor, Port Sarim, and Lumbridge as the primary sources of consistent humans of average strength.

Now, given the Cave Goblin quest series (and we know HAM was successful, thanks to Fenkenbrain), Lumbridge is most likely HAM-land. So a vampiric or lycanthropic force pacifying them is likely going to be met with staunch opposition.

Draynor would probably be fairly well set up for the Drakans, as one of their own was already ruling it before we stepped in, but that's not a very large food supply.

And as for Port Sarim, I can't recall much of anything particularly nasty happening to this town in our absence (Port Sarim Invasion is the direct result of us foiling Jed's attempt at gathering slaves). At best, this renders it in the same place as the MDF, beset by threats on all sides, or has been turned into a regular stop on the Wushanko Isles slave trade.

Going further than that makes any attempt to up and resettle the Vampyre society frankly unfeasible.

26-Oct-2016 06:05:03 - Last edited on 26-Oct-2016 06:13:00 by Hguoh

Hguoh

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Penny Drakis said :
Also, Dorgesh-Kaan is no more. It was destroyed recently enough that there were enough intact goblin inventions to reverse engineer several electric appliances. But still. DESTROYED BY THE WRATH OF ~~BANDOS~~

ZANIK

. Sure, Bandos was likely greatly weakened by Guthix, but it seems that his chosen commander still rose.

ZANIK'S ALIVE!

Erm.... Not quite. Without us there, assuming Zanik ever left Dorgesh-Kaan, Zanik would have died at HAM's hands and had nobody to take her to the Tears of Guthix. More notably, there would have been nobody around to expose Sigmund's attempt to frame the Dorgeshuun.

At best, Zanik would have been leading the Dorgeshuun against an assault by the military of Lumbridge without her Bandos Avatar form (never taken to Yu'biusk) until HAM brought the cave down upon their city.

26-Oct-2016 06:12:27 - Last edited on 26-Oct-2016 06:20:29 by Hguoh

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With all that is going on elsewhere, humans fleeing to live with the vampyres would look a great option at that point. I would find it somewhat ironic to find Morytania was a bustling metropolis in DoD, though it would be besieged with its own problems. The Myreque is probably entirely made up of Vyres and Wyrds looking to throw off the yolk of Sliskean oppression...though maybe just maybe The Barrows Brothers overthrew Sliske and have him as multiple mini-sliskes in the Barrows instead?

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26-Oct-2016 06:18:46

Penny Drakis

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Hguoh said :

Al Kharid will have found itself under Menaphite control due to the Emir's death, Prince's capture, and the failed attempt to trade the Kharid Ib. As such, Al Kharid would be subject to Amascut's machinations, making it an uncertain food source at best.

I wouldn't be so confident that Amascut in the Dimension of Disaster AU would be the same Amascut we are familiar with. The whole side quest with the Necrofelinomicon suggests a kinder, gentler Amascut, or at least an Amascut that is not repulsed by cats and who listens to and answers prayers. There is something seriously different about this alternate timeline's Amascut. Humility is self-destruction, pride is the destruction of all else. And He said, "

Let there be light.

"

And then there were none .

26-Oct-2016 07:18:26 - Last edited on 26-Oct-2016 07:19:43 by Penny Drakis

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William Witt

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Going to point out that alt-Zemouregal's Notes actually talk about Bandos' chosen commander. Doesn't name Zanik by name or specify the gender, interestingly, leaving room for doubt (but it may not have been intentional; I don't think it was deliberately vague, so it could easily be Zanik).

Anyway, this chosen commander apparently went to the God Wars Dungeon and helped tip the scales of the battle in the favor of the Bandosians, helping them get and reforge the Godsword. But then the commander was overconfident and freed Nex, promptly being killed.

About what Fenkenbrain says, I personally liked the idea that Dorgesh-Kaan itself had fallen under the attack of the Bandos avatar, but that the Dorgeshuun themselves all evacuated to Keldagrim or somewhere else in the cave network. So they're still around, but poor Dorgesh-Kaan lies deserted and in ruins... For now.

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26-Oct-2016 07:39:36 - Last edited on 26-Oct-2016 07:42:33 by William Witt

Hguoh

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William Witt said :
Going to point out that alt-Zemouregal's Notes actually talk about Bandos' chosen commander. Doesn't name Zanik by name or specify the gender, interestingly, leaving room for doubt (but it may not have been intentional; I don't think it was deliberately vague, so it could easily be Zanik).

Anyway, this chosen commander apparently went to the God Wars Dungeon and helped tip the scales of the battle in the favor of the Bandosians, helping them get and reforge the Godsword. But then the commander was overconfident and freed Nex, promptly being killed.

A large issue with this being Zanik is the knowledge that Bandos had most of his divinity drained by Guthix.

Our version of the chosen commander involved enough of an energy investment (creating the pendant and reviving Zanik) from Bandos that it took him down an entire tier.

Lacking this spare power, I find it somewhat more likely that Bandos would have pursued a less energy intensive method. Perhaps by talking with a certain goblin that could actually hear him and who happened to live much closer to both the GWD and the MDF's front against the goblins: Grubfoot.

26-Oct-2016 13:55:36 - Last edited on 26-Oct-2016 22:56:20 by Hguoh

Hguoh

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Penny Drakis said :
Hguoh said :

Al Kharid will have found itself under Menaphite control due to the Emir's death, Prince's capture, and the failed attempt to trade the Kharid Ib. As such, Al Kharid would be subject to Amascut's machinations, making it an uncertain food source at best.

I wouldn't be so confident that Amascut in the Dimension of Disaster AU would be the same Amascut we are familiar with. The whole side quest with the Necrofelinomicon suggests a kinder, gentler Amascut, or at least an Amascut that is not repulsed by cats and who listens to and answers prayers. There is something seriously different about this alternate timeline's Amascut.

Mmm. Fair point. That being said, I don't think she'd take to kindly to Vampyres conquering and feeding on her people regardless of whether she is or is not that nutty in this world.

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26-Oct-2016 22:43:15

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Quael

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Hguoh said :
Penny Drakis said :
Also, Dorgesh-Kaan is no more. It was destroyed recently enough that there were enough intact goblin inventions to reverse engineer several electric appliances. But still. DESTROYED BY THE WRATH OF ~~BANDOS~~

ZANIK

. Sure, Bandos was likely greatly weakened by Guthix, but it seems that his chosen commander still rose.

ZANIK'S ALIVE!

Erm.... Not quite. Without us there, assuming Zanik ever left Dorgesh-Kaan, Zanik would have died at HAM's hands and had nobody to take her to the Tears of Guthix. More notably, there would have been nobody around to expose Sigmund's attempt to frame the Dorgeshuun.

At best, Zanik would have been leading the Dorgeshuun against an assault by the military of Lumbridge without her Bandos Avatar form (never taken to Yu'biusk) until HAM brought the cave down upon their city.

According to Zemouregal's notes, Zanik is appointed Chosen Commander by Bandos and goes to the Temple of Lost Ancients to lead Bandos' forces there. Under her leadership, the forces of Bandos push back their enemies, seize all the pieces of the Godsword, and use the reforged weapons to achieve final victory over all other forces. However, Zanik, overconfident in her victory, then discovered and opened the ancient prison beneath the temple and was killed by Nex instantly.

Plus it was stated that the tears of Guthix didn't save her, it was Bandos, That's why when she was dying in Mighty Falls, because Bandos used up his energy to save her, weakening him to a lower tier.

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27-Oct-2016 00:48:33 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2016 00:52:20 by Quael

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William Witt

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[#0MGFV81HT] said :
What does Fenkenbrain say?

Also it's still possible that Bandos used his remaining power to create the amulet, but perhaps it's more likely he just named someone his Chosen Commander and told them to do whatever.

You ask about their usage of electricity, asking if they have cave goblins. Fenkenbrain replies that MDF long-range scouts found the tech in a ruined city to the southeast. I'd imagine he's referring to Dorgesh-Kaan, but that leaves the fate of the people unconfirmed.

For all we know things in the Dorgeshuun series managed to play out more or less as they did on our timeline, up until the end of the Chosen Commander quest - The defeat of the Bandos avatar. Unable to defeat it, Zanik and the Dorgeshuun had to evacuate to Keldagrim, leaving Dorgesh-Kaan abandoned for the time being.

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27-Oct-2016 01:54:28 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2016 03:03:07 by William Witt

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