RuneScape Forum Archive | Military of each faction?

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2020

Dennorak

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Zamorak and his army have a good mix of extremely powerful individuals as well as a ground force to match them. Powerful individuals include:

Zemouregal
Bilra**
Moia
Hazeel
Khazard
Enakhra
K'ril
Nymora
Avaryss

Then his army has ground forces at his disposal such as:

Chaos Dwarves
Kinshra
Avernic Demons
Some Chthonian Demons
Werewolves
Daemonheim Creatures

I would place Zamorak/Saradomin as being basically undeniable the #1/2 army in-game lore wise, though you would probably have Saradomin #1 after BoL.

Zamorakian Lorehound, Flame of Chaos member, Bilrach enthusiast

03-Apr-2016 18:07:19

Feb

2021

She-Bat

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Alright, what are you responding to? My comment about you having misconceived the situation is due to the fact that you have claimed that the funding of the Imperial Guard comes from Prince Anlaf and the Bunthorpians, when in fact I have presented a quote from the leader of the Imperial Guard that says that the funding comes from the White Knights.

By the way, I'm not contradicting the fact that the Saradominists seized the throne. I'm also arguing that the prophecy could well refer to Sir Amik Varze as right now he's the only one who could unite the country, because I don't believe that the Saradominists would no longer accept governance under a leader of any other religion than Saradominism.

03-Apr-2016 18:19:01 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 18:25:40 by She-Bat

Solanumtinkr

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No the funding comes from the throne of Asgarnia, the White Knights just currently hold the purse strings. they are acting as treasurer. They are just using Asgarnia's coffers for their own gain. That does not make the money the White Knight's, nor does it come from their Order's coffers, which is what you seemed to imply. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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03-Apr-2016 18:39:58 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 18:48:17 by Solanumtinkr

Feb

2021

She-Bat

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Solanumtinkr said :
No the funding comes from the throne of Asgarnia, the White Knights just currently hold the purse strings. they are acting as treasurer. They are just using Asgarnia's coffers for their own gain. That does not make the money the White Knight's, nor does it come from their Order's coffers, which is what you seemed to imply.
But you said the funding was Crown Prince An***'s. I'll have you know that the throne of Asgarnia belongs to King Vallance, on who's behalf the White Knights govern (and quite successfully too, might I add). Prince Anlaf, for a time at least, was a puppet of a Kinshra. In my personal opinion that makes him unfit to lead, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Until you produce proof of King Vallance's death, any attempt to claim the throne for someone else is, by all accounts, an uprising.

03-Apr-2016 18:53:28

Solanumtinkr

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That is what the White Knights claimed a long time ago and no one, not even the rank and file of the White Knights has seem King Vallance. Only one person in the whole Order of White Knights has access to the King, supposedly, and he also said he was taking his orders directly from Saradomin pre 6th Age. In other words while the Edicts stood. not even Sit Tiffy could substantiate those claims or the Kings health.

When the King is incapable of carrying out his duties, by Asgarnian Law the Crown Prince is the one that is supposed to take up those responsibilities. The Prince only became a puppet for the Kinshra after proof of the King being alive was refused and they would only provide it to the Prince if he came to Falador alone.

But you help prove my point that the Saradominist position is not stable within Asgarnia, they can call on the Order to produce troops, but they cannot strip it of anything else or they will come back to someone else sitting on the throne.

Actually I would like to know what room the King and his throne is in as I have seen it no where to date

Oh and the moment that letter comes out the whole country is going to explode in to a vicious civil war, don't forget there is 21 tribes in Asgarnia not 2. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
To the Manor Born QFC 185-186-367-65788716

03-Apr-2016 19:16:07 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 19:21:09 by Solanumtinkr

Feb

2021

She-Bat

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I'm sure after a long life in the public eye the King likes his privacy. I don't know where you're getting this idea that he's unable to carry out his duties. Under his leadership through Sir Amik Varze attack after attack from the Kinshra have been repulsed. By the way, I would like to see from you proof that he is or was at any point recently incapable of carrying out his duties. Otherwise, this is idle speculation on your behalf.

So you confess he was a puppet for the Kinshra? Excellent.

Saradomin, judging by his perfect willingness to work with the White Knights at the Battle of Lumbridge, is 100% supportive of the White Knights. Every Saradominist should therefore do likewise. So long as the White Knights advise King Vallance, the position is secure.

Did you ever hear of Long live the King? Well, it would be very difficult to keep that going if the King has to sleep in a cold, stone castle which is anyway needed for the defence of Asgarnia. I'm sure he's in comfy lodgings underground somewhere, safe from the elements and the Kinshra.

And also, I find it weird that you quote King Raddallin when you're trying to destroy what he created.

I could go at this all day, but I feel we're derailing the topic. Perhaps we should discuss ingame?

Actually, on a related note to the topic, how exactly did Armadyl get some Aviansie for the Bird and the Beast? Surely if he took them from the GWD that would've caused Kree'Arra major problems?

03-Apr-2016 20:05:54 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 20:08:48 by She-Bat

Hazeel

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@Solanumtinkr

No, the throne isn't inherently Saradominist, though I wouldn't be surprised if each prince has been groomed by the White/Temple Knights to follow Saradomin's path. In the end, though, the throne doesn't master. The white knights have full control. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

03-Apr-2016 20:06:07

Solanumtinkr

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Lore FC would be the best place to take this further. But as everyone can now see, Asgarnia and it's military situation is a mess just waiting to pop. I would not count anything into the factions within it's boarders until the situation is resolved. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
To the Manor Born QFC 185-186-367-65788716

03-Apr-2016 20:40:00

Feb

2021

She-Bat

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Solanumtinkr said :
Lore FC would be the best place to take this further. But as everyone can now see, Asgarnia and it's military situation is a mess just waiting to pop. I would not count anything into the factions within it's boarders until the situation is resolved.
Waiting to pop? Resistance is futile. I wouldn't worry.

03-Apr-2016 20:53:22

SwedishPagns

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Faledak said :
Azzanadra.
Wahisitiel.
Akthanakos.
Nex.
Char.
Duke Cacus.
Vindicta.
Nex's bodyguards.
Mighty Blood reaver.
Blood reaver.
Ne**ryaels.
Abyssal demons.
Bandits.
Ancient mage, ranger and warriors.

Maybe more.

Azzanadra is worth 1 000 000 Zamorakian/Saradominist scum. ·

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03-Apr-2016 21:43:29

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