RuneScape Forum Archive | Military of each faction?

Feb

2021

She-Bat

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What are the rest of Asgarnia capable of? Please enlighten me, because all I see is the Imperial Guard, who rely on White Knight funding, the Kinshra, who are demoralised and have much less resources than the White Knights, and the Void Knights, who are on a freaking island in the middle of nowhere and despite the fact we've weakened the Pests are still fighting them in the Sixth Age and who's God and several of it's most promising leaders are now dead.

The Saradominist advisor gets, his way, you say? Would a Saradominist advisor want to see the overthrow of the most devoutly Saradominist government in Gilenor and it's replacement with a heretical one? Case and point.

I did not claim that the majority of Asgarnia is Saradominist. I claimed that the majority of Falador is Saradominist. Falador is all that matters when you're discussing the overthrow of the White Knights, because that's all they actively control (they do control Port Sarim and Rimmington, but they have very few troops down there save those at the Grotworms). And you're actively admitting that overthrowing the White Knights could very well lead to a non-Saradominist government. There goes your support from the majority of Faladians. That means another war, and as I've said, the Kinshra are on a losing streak.

Why would the Dwarves want the overthrow of the the government? They're allowed their mines, what more would they care? And if they get dragged into it, I can show example after example that businesses prefer the status quo over the uncertainty of change and that's what primarily drives the dwarves. They would support the Saradominists. It wouldn't help the Zamorakians that the devout Saradominist, Dionysius, did the dwarves a major favour by clearing out the trolls. Who says they wouldn't return it?

Finally, did that stop Saradomin in the Battle of Lumbridge? They were fighting over a small area of land next to a small town. We're talking about a major city that is centrally located.

03-Apr-2016 16:58:09 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 16:58:58 by She-Bat

Hazeel

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Zamorak has:

Humans
Demons
-Lesser, Greater, Black, Butcher, Bloodveld, Hellhounds, Jungle, Kal'G*rion, Icefiends, Pyrefiends, and Imps
Mahjarrat
Werewolves
Vyres
Chaos Dwarves
Gorak
Undead
Giants
Hobgoblins
Brutes
Behemoths
Trolls
Stalkers
Dragons(?)
-These are in Daemonheim with Zamorak's other followers, but I think it's more likely these are Kerapa**.
Daemonheim Humans
-Kinda cheating, but I put this in its own category because, unlike normal humans, the Forgotten Warriors would actually have a military impact, whereas the majority of normal humans are just fodder and are as threatening as an imp. In terms of "military force", I wouldn't even count most humans because they are so weak. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

03-Apr-2016 17:16:03

Solanumtinkr

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The funding is Asgarnian not White Knight. it is a common misconception to confuse the 2. The throne and treasury belong to Crown Prince Anla*, currently holed up in Burthrope due to assassination attempts, or a fear of them. And as for the funding comes from a wide selection of the factions that make up the population.

As for the Saradominist Advisor, he was originally apart of a White Knight's series sub plot that was going to use political figures in place all around the world to plant a modified version of the sea slug on all the leaders, research the clique I mentioned was hinted at undertaking.

Salt in the Wound killed off that plot as far as I can see, but the attitudes remain. And the Advisor's attention is on retaking "Hallowvale" to the exclusion of all else.

And I didn't say overthrow, that is all you. There is a prophecy about someone uniting all the factions of Asgarnia back under an Asgarnian banner. The fact is that Asgarnia has been in turmoil and on the verge of civil war ever since the Temple Knights(?) leadership seized the throne.

All I am saying is the Saradominist position is not as solid as it first appears, which would explain the derth aggressive action to date. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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03-Apr-2016 17:37:34 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 17:47:25 by Solanumtinkr

Jun

2019

Aig123

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Right now, Zamorak's top card (military-wise) is probably Daemonheim. The countless alien races and army of warriors, mages and archers is one thing, the warped materials and resource dungeons full of wealth for future plans are another. More importantly, if the Rift on floor 61 can link to Teragard's Schism, then Saradomin's homeworld could be in for a surprise attack.

The biggest flaw could be Bilrach sacrificing the Chelon-Mah. As it attracted the Fremmenik to start raiding, making Daemonheim less of a secret. It may eventually reach the God's ears.
We saw how the Signature heroes simply waltzed inside during a Saga, for instance.

03-Apr-2016 17:41:43

Feb

2021

She-Bat

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Are you sure I'm under the misconception? Simply because in Death Plateau:

Commander Denluth: The White Knights have overlooked us, until now! They are pouring money into their war against the Black Knights, so they are looking for an excuse to stop our funding and I'm afraid they may have found it!

And by the way, who's to say that the prophecy does not refer to Sir Amik Varze uniting Asgarnia under his leadership?

My point is that the Saradominists position is quite comfortable right now and that save some major development there is no reason they would be unable to assist Saradomin. Yes, they have opposition, but it is far too weak to do compete with them.

And anyway, the White and Black Knights have been competing with each other since Vallance's time. Their takeover of Falador merely gave them the upper hand.

03-Apr-2016 17:44:21 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 17:51:53 by She-Bat

Hazeel

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She-Bat said :
And by the way, who's to say that the prophecy does not refer to Sir Amik Varze uniting Asgarnia under his leadership?

Because he's a zealous tyrant. But yeah, it's obvious at this point that the White Knights have complete, unquestioned rule in Asgarnia. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

03-Apr-2016 17:52:41

Solanumtinkr

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Very sure. The throne was never Saradominist,the way the letter is worded confirms that stance by the throne.

LETTER TO LORD SANAFIN VAL*IN

Sanafin,

I hope this letter finds you.

Things have been strained in this kingdom of ours of late. I want you to know that, no matter how loudly the White Knights may say otherwise, your role in the foundation of this great and united nation has not been forgotten.

As I'm sure you remember, two months ago the Council of Falador presented Grand Master Perior with a sword and declared him saviour of the city. I believe this action was taken to embarrass you and your Order of Kinshra.

To redress this, I have commissioned a similar sword for you. It was my intention to have the Council present it to you similarly, but they have refused. Therefore I send it to you personally. Receive it in the knowledge that even if you do not have the friendship of the nobles of Falador, you have mine. The blade is fine, and will serve you well. My court mages have enchanted it with fresh runes carted all the way from Gulvas in Silvarea.

I hope that you find yourself in Falador again soon. Though I hold the faith of the Saradominists in great respect, they are becoming more and more boisterous in their proselytization. In the absence of your public and respectable face, I fear the name of Zamorak is becoming tarnished in the eyes of my people.

I caution you and your knights to be on their finest behaviour. In this climate, I fear another incident like the burning of the chapel could bring the wrath not only of the knights, but of the people themselves down upon your order. If for no other reason than to provide a balance of the faiths, I do not wish to see that come about.

In nomine Saradomin

In nomine Zamorak

Forever your friend,

King Raddallin of Asgarnia,

High Chieftain of the Asgar The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
To the Manor Born QFC 185-186-367-65788716

03-Apr-2016 17:56:11

Zack3

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I guess I'll begin from scratch since I'm to lazy to check what has already being mentioned

To me zammy has both quantity and quality, but there is a big problem, how divided the faction is in the inside due to propaganda of saradominists, not to mention the possibility of some like zemouregal rebeling, but thats beside the point anyway.
Zammy has:
Black knights (and elites), red mages, dagon hai, chaos druids, other dark wizards, chaos dwarves, chaos giants, damoenhein warriors (including the modified humans well hobgoblin hybrids), hobgoblins in damoenhein, stalkers, behemoths, legions of demons (including 2 tsutsaroths, armys of kalgerions, and others like ripper demons which I'm sure are zamorakian considering they are made from a zamorakian demon and drop zammy wine so......), goraks, blood velds, some vyres, werewolves, mahjarrats (including moia), armies of undead, khazards army, huzamogarbb goblins (not zamorakians but they kinda belong to the zamorakians so.....), cult of hazzel, the warbands groups, spiritual warriors, and maybe the cult of iban..........wow he sure has lots of dark mage orders

Ok now for Saradomin he mostly has quantity but not as much quality compared to zammy, but still has some quality so his forces are:
White knights (including temple knights), ardys paladins, varrocks forces, h.a.m....., lumbys soldiers, blue mages, lots of icyene, centaurs, some undead (like fern), lions, unicorns, saragorgak goblins, like 2 incamdo dwarves, gollems, whats is left of the myreque, spiritual warriors, and some mechanized forces like the prideleaders.

Zaros lacks quantity but has mostly quality:
Mahjarrat, nex and nihils, char, chtonians (incuding surviving dukes, and creatures like blood reavers), armies of demons, ancient warriors, desert bandits, and vindicta and her dragon.

continued on next post

03-Apr-2016 17:57:26 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2016 17:58:49 by Zack3

Solanumtinkr

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Though by that time the Void knights had been exiled to Taverly, thanks to the whisper campaign by the same Saradominist* that set out to destroy the Black Knights reputation and set everyone against them. It was a systematic campaign to isolate the throne and then seize it. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
To the Manor Born QFC 185-186-367-65788716

03-Apr-2016 17:57:59

Zack3

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Seren also has lots of quality:
9 elven clans from which 1 specialices in mage and range, another in melee, another in summoning (hence armies of summoning beasts), another can shapeshift, etc, ents, some gnomes, creatures from the forest, and automatons.
Sliske:
Necromancers, armies of undead, gregovorik (not sure what he is at this point lol), barrows bros, wights, and shadow demons, and some crazy individuals.
Armadyl:
Guadians of armadyl, and aviansies……. And that’s it oh and some gollems
And finally godless since I don’t count the other factions since their gods are dead:
Kara meir’s personal harem, gnomes, dwarves, a fossil, garlandia and ux, and many unknown forces

03-Apr-2016 17:59:05

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