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Allarla

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Vlad Bron said :
This thread reminded me how Azzy gradually went from my favorite mahjarrat to borderline Khazard level. Now it's Kharshai at top and Weasel at 2nd for me. Azzanadra is disappointed, and so is Wahisietel. :P :)
But isn't 'borderline Khazard' a bit excessive (maybe even far-fetched)? Don't misunderstand, not trying to bring your opinion down or anything, just wondering what makes you say that? (Tbh, I'd be interested in general in some more detailed reasoning from the people who used to like Azzanadra so much but don't like him like that anymore.)

Kittiwarrior said :
char liked him, and she wouldnt have done so if he'd been the person he was in SE She did? :O I mean, AoD Nex's Praesul goes:
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[...] Char, the dancer. Does she still pine hopelessly for our Lord? Through Pernix's eyes her feelings were always clear. Since her return, she has had no true home, being forced to abode with Azzanadra whom I know she dislikes . Perhaps I will invite her here, and together we can recreate a tiny part of the grandeur of the empire.
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14-Apr-2018 15:42:26

Zanna

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Allarla said :
Vlad Bron said :
This thread reminded me how Azzy gradually went from my favorite mahjarrat to borderline Khazard level. Now it's Kharshai at top and Weasel at 2nd for me. Azzanadra is disappointed, and so is Wahisietel. :P :)
But isn't 'borderline Khazard' a bit excessive (maybe even far-fetched)? Don't misunderstand, not trying to bring your opinion down or anything, just wondering what makes you say that? (Tbh, I'd be interested in general in some more detailed reasoning from the people who used to like Azzanadra so much but don't like him like that anymore.)

I still like Azzandra barely, it seems like these days the devs are more interested in the fandoms interpretation of his character and ignoring any previous lore that contradicted it. He always had flaws such as his obvious contempt for other religions, zealotism, superiority complex, etc I get why some people never liked him. But IMO he used to balance them out more with his interest in talking about the past/ involving the player in his plans, I can get why fans blame this meme for character derailment.

17-Apr-2018 12:59:39 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2018 13:08:40 by Zanna

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For me, though the char thing is the thing I personally hate the most about his new character while we never knew his thoughts on char we did have her thoughts on him

(literally talk to char after doing tas)
Char: I cannot accuse you of lying. I may despise the Mahjarrat race for Zamorak's doings, but Azzanadra was always one of the exceptions. A true, loyal and brave follower of Zaros. He must think greatly of you to allow you to be present when making contact with our almighty Zaros. I suppose it cannot harm to share with you. Zaros may be gone, but only fools and those with Zamorak's overwhelming self-confidence would assume Zaros was oblivious to his future. Azzanadra and I are both restored. There are others, I'm pretty sure of it, and we will strive to put Zaros' plans into motion.

If she hated him why didn't she say that? And that's whats so disappointing, Azzandras madness being one of his new character traits the idea of char and Azzandra growing to hate each other would have been way more interesting than pretending they always did. Character development is always better then retconning or ignoring past character traits. Imagine how much more interesting it would be if char hating Azzandra was a new thing as she realized he was insane now, when she last knew him he was not insane, but she was imprisoned for ages, the change would be sudden and jarring for her, while Wahisietel and Akthanakos wouldn't have noticed because they were around for it. how much more conflict it would add between the Zaroisan faction with char and Azzandra probably being Zaroses favorites, having the devs say oh they always hated each other she just said otherwise before because uh reasons is pretty meh.

Honestly, it seems like for some things the devs learn about past lore through the fandom's interpretation of the past lore rather than the past lore. Which just kinda turns it into a silly interpretation of itself.

17-Apr-2018 13:06:45 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2018 13:16:44 by Zanna

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char liked him, and she wouldnt have done so if he'd been the person he was in SE She did? :O I mean, AoD Nex's Praesul goes:
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[...] Char, the dancer. Does she still pine hopelessly for our Lord? Through Pernix's eyes her feelings were always clear. Since her return, she has had no true home, being forced to abode with Azzanadra whom I know she dislikes . Perhaps I will invite her here, and together we can recreate a tiny part of the grandeur of the empire. [/quote]

nex's praesul is like 2 seconds old compared to the firemaker's curse, which shows she liked him, even though she hated the mahjarrat

19-Apr-2018 09:14:31

Vlad Bron
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It was a mix of Azzanadra's reaction to Moia and his past as Zaros' big church guy. I see a bit of a blurred line between religious and culty anyway. I liked him at first because he was the first mahjarrat to want to try a peaceful method first. Maybe he'd really prefer peace, maybe he'd just rather not draw attention to himself at the time. He reasons for not trying to slaughter don't matter so much to me.

Back to the thing with Moia though, I've liked her and started to grow some empathy for her since the Fremennik sagas. Her father's an egotistical ass and yet she's probably the most humble of the mahjarrat along with Karshai. I hope to see a quest on her backstory. Who's her mother and what happened there?

22-Apr-2018 21:39:09

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Azzanadra is disappointed that none of you have reminded the rest of us how disappointed he is in over 2 weeks. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

07-May-2018 23:20:48

Deltaslug

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He's always disappointed

Trapped in a pyramid for literal ages
Your god can come back but in a light simulcron
Sliske betrayed them on multiple levels
The Zarosians still haven't claimed The Heart
Washitiel is always annoying him with "Azzie, anything I can do to help you and Zaros?"
Having to deal with Char's mood swings

08-May-2018 01:52:31 - Last edited on 08-May-2018 01:56:07 by Deltaslug

Allarla

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Deltaslug said :
Washitiel is always annoying him with "Azzie, anything I can do to help you and Zaros?" :D
Although I think Akthanakos' "Ooh, ooh, can we send my camel warriors to do that?!" is more of a nuisance. :D
(And Wahisietel is disappointed btw that lately nobody gets his name right. :@ :P )
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08-May-2018 13:18:08

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